Are we Americans dumb?

started by Nisha007 4 mnths ago
Srsly it is appalling to see how the media is all over Hillary on why she should quit or what mistakes she made or what did not work ....It is really sad to see a person with such good intent and content pushed to the wall so mercillessly by the same people who drain their lungs crying hoarse about being superior because of their affiliation to values of equal opportunity, freedom, patriotism and capitalism. 

Will those men who claim to have accepted women as equals and those women who expend their lives fighting for freedom and equality of their lot not show prudence or intelligence in making their judgment this time? Will they again prove that they do not walk the talk almost ever?

For here you have a well bred, well educated, successful lawyer who spent her life supporting the most successful president in American history, standing by his side when he erred, who suffered humiliation and setbacks for no apparent fault of hers, who displayed patience, resilience and determination in resurrecting the deviously trampled iconic image of her husband and the president....You have someone who despite all this instead of expressing recklessness, resignation or relapse stood once again for elections with a never say die attitude and impeccable credentials. And yet instead of going for what is obvious, America seems to be all set to choose what is so bizarre and ridiculous. What could be the motivation to act in such an asinine manner?

But then, what can one say of a country that voted Bush twice in a row?

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  Gatita posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
he will come on a white horse!!!
he will have supernatural power

  peacegazer posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
After all the dust settles on this  'first black, first woman candidate'  hype,  Mccain will win.  Cheney stooge will be the VP candidate.  If Mccain craoks in the middle of his presidency, Cheney will be the proxy prez.   Republicans are worse than the most currupt indian politicians.
  Jauhari posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
We had our first black president.  Any Black man or woman living in America will tell you that Clinton was our first black president. 


  PseudoIntellectual posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
Her IQ dropped to half since she started her campaign.  She deserves not be elected for several reasons. Including false information on her resume.
  Jauhari posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
Her only qualifications are------ she has Billy boy on her side!  That's all I care about.  Anyone with half a brain knows the economy we had under Bill Clinton.  Why wouldn't you want a repeat of that?
  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago

you slackjaws should elect monika or that other bignose whitetrash from arkansas. those two had billyboy inside them more often than hilary did fo sho.

  Jauhari posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
Hey Pagal! Tum bahut agyana hai!  You are braindead of course! 

I hope you can't vote.  Imagine that?  I had to reapply for my voting rights and people as dumb as you are allowed to vote.
  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago

me no spiki hindi. talk to me in english, pimp. and sorry to disappoint you, I CAN vote and voting am for mccain so choke on that.


  Gatita posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago





  JBF posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
what a waste of text..

  Recycled Soul posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago

Hillary is failing as a candidate, not as  woman.  

Before you blame all the Americans & their dislike for woman president...dont forget it was Hillary who initially campaigned as beeing a woman...she event used her fake tears to win over the women. Frankly... all political rivals ..whether it was democrats or republicans did treat her like a Man.


  Currer Bell posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago


I am SO sick of the whole "first woman" and "first black" !! who gives a **!? We're looking at people who are qualified for a position! I think it's more sexist and racist to even acknowledge this.

I work for a corporation that has women and blacks in senior leadership roles. It doesn't make a difference - they still have to do their jobs.

The whole media shapes this country.  It's ridiculous.

*end of rant* 

(expect more by Nov)

  Recycled Soul posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
Yup it is ridiculous when people see the candidates as first black, first woman.....   infact they are ones insulting the credibility of candidates like Hillary & Obama.
  Jauhari posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
Don't forget the  old fart McCain.  He is a fossil.  I think he rode a dinosaur to school.


  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
You may not and I may not but that does not absolve anything. Divide and Rule is what has been the strategy. Make them sick as you are now of this "sexist" and "racist" angle that they eventually dump both and go for Mr McCain.
  Currer Bell posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
No, they won't. Even the die-hard republicans are converting.

  carvaka posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
> You may not and I may not but that does not absolve anything.

LOL. Amidst all the Hindi abuse today, I missed a gem. Do you mind if I sent it in to the DNRC newsletter? Thanks. 

  Recycled Soul posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
Inspite of republicans driving this country into recession, loss of homes/ foreclosures, loss of jobs, high gas prices, high grocery costs , declining education standards, rising health care costs, immigration issues, economic crisis, debts..if the people still give republicans another 4 years in the coming elections..... ...then it would really conclude that Americans are making/taking dumb decisions.
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
Phew!! Thank you for the concurrence.




  Uppili posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
"WE" americans ????

ok...   well here is an example..

Just take a look at our  own Rev. Joe - the Cage Master..and you will know the answer.....:)

In any case - it will be McCain the president and PERHAPS, Jindal the VP.
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
One of the reasons to say "we" was to avoid the NRI v/s ABD kind of stale fight/argument . I figured inclusion could bring in more perspective on the mnain topic than sidelining it :)

Actually I have been saying this (and believe me top notch intellectuals in India too) have been saying that Obama is clearly a republican ploy to destabilize Clinton and facilitate McCain's victory. I am sure what you said will happen given the state of affairs. While politically Republicans will end up being very astute, what irks me is how stupid could the people get. I wont say that for the media because obviously they are paid to demoralize Clinton fromt he beginning. Which brings us to the point that media seems like an outsider in all countries, US is no exception. They just bark when paid. Period.
  Uppili posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
The good and bad thing about McCain..

He is a known devil.

He is an experienced devil

he has not changed sides or sidetracked like the two Dems (or demons).

He is NOT Bush, Jr.

He is more like Bush, Sr... socially liberal and economically conservative and a real war veteran. So even if he appears like a war monger he will be more objective and decisive than Bush, Jr, or the dems. No one can say for sure what the two dems will do once they become a pres..

He is a WHITE and a MALE - two things that go against the two dems in this sexist and racist country.
With the "freak" Jindal by his side he might even rope in the Church wallahs to his side and deflect the destrators.

White House does not have to worry about IT problem in the white house as our Geek desi Jindal can take care of it.....

In short he will be more 0.3*Reagan + 0.5* Bush, Sr + 0.2* Clinton.

Down side.... He may continue the "mortgage the future" economic policy of the Reps.

He might end up getting more involved in Iraq AND Iran.

He will be a stepping stone for the Geek Freak Jindal.

P.S. BTW, Jindal is a Punjabi speaking, North Indian - Oh no....;)
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
I doubt if he even speaks his mother tongue. Actually I hope he does not. He need not follow anything that he was so eager to shed off. In any case he is preparing to be born as a Catholic, this time by birth instead of by adopting the religion at 7! He wasted 7 yrs being a Hindu!! What a bummer!


  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
are you putting yourself with 'top notch intellectuals in India"? just curious.
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
yeah and also with the dumb ones in America :)
  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
I'd say you're more with the latter than with the former.
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
yeah right whatever you say .....that is why I am questioning their dumb actions...lol
  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
their? I thot you mentioned 'we' in the original post.







  Maria S posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago


This Indian-American woman was a loyal supporter of the Clintons

*I was deeply disappointed and changed my mind when Mrs. Clinton was among the first to vote for Iraq war and knew I could not support her...she has never apologized her vote- and for all the unnecessary thousands of deaths and bloodshed.

*I was also again disappointed to see the way the Clintons..don't "play by the rules" and will do whatever to win.

*I was a little conflicted at times..but, her recent statement about "obliterating Iran"..pretty much did it...I could never support anyone (in any country- who has such a mentality to obliterating any country).

M
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago

People just dont use any judicious discretion. They are weak in spirit and mind and it is easy to manipulate their analysis and judgement. Media has been against Clinton from day 0. A consistent paid propaganda of all her assumed wrongs has clearly worked on people like the one you just quoted. 

When US was attacked and more than 3000 people died, when Taliban assumed responsibility, who in their patriotic minds would oppose a war against Iraq when capturing Osama became a distant or a difficult alternative? What was wrong with that initial concession? 

As to "dont play by rules" ho ho ho.... who does anyways? Are Republicans playing by the rules? Is Obama playing by the rules? 

The clear give away that Obama is a Repulican ploy is his name. Only they can act so stupidly vengeant. Like in one of their Mogambo like "strategic" meets someone must have come up with a question, "what should we name the guy who will save us from Osama? And pat came Mogambo's reply "Obama!!!

  Maria S posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago


The "Obama"/"Osama" thing is so old and has been overplayed.

I am optimistic...and look forward to an interesting general election...

For now- I have some faith in my fellow-Americans...(at least a majority of them)...

*I have not heard an American leader say "I will not only meet with friends but with enemies".. Obama's courage, integrity and the way he has been dignified (to me) has impressed me..
But, I will be watching Barack closely....so far he has played by the rules *(imo)...if he does not, I can always change my mind..

I going to give him a chance as I did with the Clintons(many, many, many times)...even during the impeachment trial, all the scandals (thought that was their personal lives)..

The war/fear mongering- does not work for me.

M
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago




  deep purple posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
when did you take US citizenship bond gal?
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
I am a dual citizen
  PseudoIntellectual posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
you are a dual troll. ;)

  deep purple posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
oh. i thought u returned to India.
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
I keep floating around :)
  deep purple posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
well in ur absence. u were voted the most intelligent CHer by Amerasianindian (or sth like that) and aa.
  Nisha007 posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
well in their absence then I thank them and hope you will convey that to them :)




  JBF posted Re:Are we Americans dumb? on 4 mnths ago
bond gal hmmm

many id's? interesting..

no doubt you are worrid about stupid lobbist.




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