Narendra Modi
started by punjabilad 11 mnths agoFlat
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modi is a joker dude
modi ko jail do
not to mention he is in bed with
good ol' pramuk swami
of our good friends at the swaminaryan sanstha
filtering nri bucks to the homeland to KILL
mafioso....but then again, aren't all high level politicos.
'cept barak hussain obama. but he'll probably turn up doing something dumb too.
hmm, maybe i think he's interesting because im from the ghetto and do drugs according to queen bee.
and thats what black people do, right?
modi ko jail do
not to mention he is in bed with
good ol' pramuk swami
of our good friends at the swaminaryan sanstha
filtering nri bucks to the homeland to KILL
mafioso....but then again, aren't all high level politicos.
'cept barak hussain obama. but he'll probably turn up doing something dumb too.
hmm, maybe i think he's interesting because im from the ghetto and do drugs according to queen bee.
and thats what black people do, right?
I was reading the BBC- Profile of Modi...found it to be interesting:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1958555.stm
These excerpts (if true, are revealing):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1958555.stm
These excerpts (if true, are revealing):
"Mr Modi reportedly married a woman working as a teacher in a poor Muslim area about 100 kilometres (60 miles) from Gujarat's commercial capital, Ahmedabad.But his official biography makes no mention of it.Critics say the omission is in keeping with the value that old-world RSS members place on a life of bachelorhood - allowing in their view true dedication to work as an RSS leader.
But the 52-year-old minister is not given to spartan tastes - he is widely known instead for his love of expensive clothes and designer accessories. "
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If true, he seems more like regular politician and a fake religious fanatic (playing the role) after all! (Which oddly makes him seem less dangerous).
M
"what else is one to read from calling modi a "fake religious fanatic"?"
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Max,
I have to be an ulitmate softie, when it come to you...since I still am responding and trying to explain:) (Hope you understand that and appreciate that!)
*Ok, I am not saying this Modi person is innocent or sweet as apple pie (or laddu/jilebi)...his profile seems to be revealing..I was under the impression that this some kind of "religious fanatic" (Ok- Modi seems more like "fake fanatic" like Saddam, who liked living in Palaces and NOT like Osama- who is a truly more of a religious fanatic and lives(?) in a cave (does that make sense?!)
*As you all say- he may be still very cruel and go along with atrocities..I am NOT denying that...just that- he seems to like power, women and "designer clothes"- a little too much to be seen as some pure religious fanatic/maniac..
I have done all the explaining that I can do..
M
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Max,
I have to be an ulitmate softie, when it come to you...since I still am responding and trying to explain:) (Hope you understand that and appreciate that!)
*Ok, I am not saying this Modi person is innocent or sweet as apple pie (or laddu/jilebi)...his profile seems to be revealing..I was under the impression that this some kind of "religious fanatic" (Ok- Modi seems more like "fake fanatic" like Saddam, who liked living in Palaces and NOT like Osama- who is a truly more of a religious fanatic and lives(?) in a cave (does that make sense?!)
*As you all say- he may be still very cruel and go along with atrocities..I am NOT denying that...just that- he seems to like power, women and "designer clothes"- a little too much to be seen as some pure religious fanatic/maniac..
I have done all the explaining that I can do..
M
He is not a fake fanatic; he is a real fanatic. He is directly responsible for the death of thousands. He had given instructions to his goons that for three days they were free to butcher as many muslims as possible.
Stalin ???
Pol Pot ?
Hitler ?
Saddam ?
Mao Tse-Tung ?
Rajiv ?
Ayub Khan ?
Akbar ?
Jehangir ?
Shan Jehan ?
Modi ?
Hirohito ?
Pol Pot ?
Hitler ?
Saddam ?
Mao Tse-Tung ?
Rajiv ?
Ayub Khan ?
Akbar ?
Jehangir ?
Shan Jehan ?
Modi ?
Hirohito ?
Bounder Gounders?
I knew you were too stupid, biased, defensive, and agenda driven to give any direct answer.
Thank you for not disappointing me.
Thank you for not disappointing me.
I knew you were too stupid, biased, defensive, and agenda driven to give any direct answer
Thank you for not disappointing me, Gounder Boy.
Thank you for not disappointing me, Gounder Boy.
"he may be still very cruel and go along with atrocities..I am NOT denying that...just that- he seems to like power, women and "designer clothes"- a little too much to be seen as some pure religious fanatic/maniac.." -- maria s.
don't you see that maria admires anything and everything that's likely to have sprouted a penis between its legs? haven't you also noticed that she's indifferent to those who haven't?
flimflam
don't you see that maria admires anything and everything that's likely to have sprouted a penis between its legs? haven't you also noticed that she's indifferent to those who haven't?
flimflam
“ haven't you also noticed that she's indifferent to those who haven't?”
>>> Just don’t let her ignore you and your posts. Because if she is seen to act indifferent towards you then people will think either you haven’t sprouted anything between your legs or something went awfully wrong with you during circumcision. And you sure don’t want to take that chance – people thinking of you that way.
Apparently, the organ in this person who posted, which is supposed to grow between two ears- seems to be grossly underdeveloped and stunted with sexism and ignorance!
M
*A special note to Max- since you always claim not yo understand what I say- let me spell it for you- the organ is called BRAIN.
*And a note to Sulekha- why can't we block someone who is a nuisance in the Forums, just as we do in the blogs? (in individual posts..I do not want them to be blocked compeletely- just from my posts).Thanks.
M
*A special note to Max- since you always claim not yo understand what I say- let me spell it for you- the organ is called BRAIN.
*And a note to Sulekha- why can't we block someone who is a nuisance in the Forums, just as we do in the blogs? (in individual posts..I do not want them to be blocked compeletely- just from my posts).Thanks.
" If true, he seems more like regular politician and a fake religious fanatic (playing the role) after all! (Which oddly makes him seem less dangerous)."
>>> are you saying this for real? i am truly amazed at the lengths you will go to, to forgive murderous bigots like modi. please wake up and smell the coffee. do the recorded atrocities committed by modi and documented by bureaucrats and the human rights watch organization mean nothing to you? sometimes i am at a loss to understand why you do this.
>>> are you saying this for real? i am truly amazed at the lengths you will go to, to forgive murderous bigots like modi. please wake up and smell the coffee. do the recorded atrocities committed by modi and documented by bureaucrats and the human rights watch organization mean nothing to you? sometimes i am at a loss to understand why you do this.
>>> are you saying this for real? i am truly amazed at the lengths you will go to, to forgive murderous bigots like modi. please wake up and smell the coffee. do the recorded atrocities committed by modi and documented by bureaucrats and the human rights watch organization mean nothing to you? sometimes i am at a loss to understand why you do this.
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Do you even read what I say...did I say-" forgive"? I don't even know what I am supposed to forgive!
Oh please (A BIG PlEASE!) ..cut it out Max..You and your "saintly outrage!" Your selective outrage of some things- and "selective admiration/adoration" for a few tamilians/South Indians here, while you wait to jump on me like a pitbull- every time you see a sighting of me! It is funny to absurd to sad..the way you react to me and my posts!
I have completely stopped clicking on a few screen names and their posts here- feel so much better!..and did not want to bother clicking on your posts too.. may be you should try the same with my posts..since you will never understand me!
Enough already..
M
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Do you even read what I say...did I say-" forgive"? I don't even know what I am supposed to forgive!
Oh please (A BIG PlEASE!) ..cut it out Max..You and your "saintly outrage!" Your selective outrage of some things- and "selective admiration/adoration" for a few tamilians/South Indians here, while you wait to jump on me like a pitbull- every time you see a sighting of me! It is funny to absurd to sad..the way you react to me and my posts!
I have completely stopped clicking on a few screen names and their posts here- feel so much better!..and did not want to bother clicking on your posts too.. may be you should try the same with my posts..since you will never understand me!
Enough already..
M
bringing water, power, basic education, and justice - satisfying basic human and societal needs using taxpayers' money - cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, be called "an astonishing track record."
on the other hand, modi's and his government's complicity in the mass murder of gujarati muslims is indeed astonishing barbarity. read about it in these excerpts from a long and detailed report by Human Rights Watch, and international human rights organization:
http://flimflam2.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/10/state-complicity-and-modi-s-culpability-in-the-gujarat.htm
in the blog is also a link to the complete report.
btw, Human Rights Watch is NOT part of the indian media.
flimflam
on the other hand, modi's and his government's complicity in the mass murder of gujarati muslims is indeed astonishing barbarity. read about it in these excerpts from a long and detailed report by Human Rights Watch, and international human rights organization:
http://flimflam2.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/10/state-complicity-and-modi-s-culpability-in-the-gujarat.htm
in the blog is also a link to the complete report.
btw, Human Rights Watch is NOT part of the indian media.
flimflam
modi's and his government's complicity in the mass murder of gujarati muslims
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The jury is still out on it!
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The jury is still out on it!
Jury ? what Jury ? Don;t you know how to apply the laws in a secular manner... ?
Any hindu accused of any wrong doing against a minarety is considered guilty until proven innocent in a court of law.
Any hindu accused of any wrong doing against a minarety is considered guilty until proven innocent in a court of law.
If minarities are involved in some way, then any potential Hindu accused is convected first and will stay convicted until proven innocent - if at all.
How come you are jumping in the badwagon - of extra constitutional conviction while all the time espousing the pre-eminance of constitution and economic well being over everything else....
How come you are jumping in the badwagon - of extra constitutional conviction while all the time espousing the pre-eminance of constitution and economic well being over everything else....
Great work done,so a political Hero.
jyotsna
http://www.jyotsnasolanki.com
jyotsna
http://www.jyotsnasolanki.com
Gujrat violence after Godra incident was anatural reaction of masses.When masses move impossoble to control.Histoy is full of such mass movements i.e.Russion revolution.Chinese revolution.French revolutionand Indian struggle for independence.What we must consider is overall economic progress of state rather than such reactions on godra incedent.After that incedent no such violence has occoured.It prooves itself.
"Gujrat violence after Godra incident was a natural reaction of masses."
I call it as an act of vengeance by a large group of unscrupulous people. They could not care less about the victims of Godhra incident. They just got what they wanted--an excuse to kill thousands of muslims and rape all those muslim girls and women. Perhaps, it was their opportunity to make their sick fantasies to come true. People were killed in Godhra incident, but not raped; shops were not burned down. The Godhra was targeted at one group (50-100) of people, NOT 100s of thousands of people. So, you think "Russian & Chinese revolutions" as a natural reaction by masses? LOL........Indian struggle for independence? Huh?! If thousands of Brits were killed and the Brit girls and women were raped, they would killed thousands of Indians. What if there was a "natural reaction" to the 9-11-01 terrorist attacks in this country? We are talking about 3,000+ deaths vs. 56 deaths. Do you know why thousands of muslims were not killed and/or raped? Not because the americans are saints and angels. There is such a thing as law enforcement here. Even if there was such "natural reaction", the govt. would have stepped in and squelched the uprising. Think about this: what if an incident similar to Godhra occurred in Kashmir or Afghanistan? Do you think those cowardly gujjus would have reacted the same way? Absolutely not. I can bet my life on it. They are sooooooooooo brave when they outnumber their victims by 1000 to 1. I am astonished by the 'highly educated' CHers, who continue to justify the aftermath of the Godhra incident. Is it because the victims were muslims?
I call it as an act of vengeance by a large group of unscrupulous people. They could not care less about the victims of Godhra incident. They just got what they wanted--an excuse to kill thousands of muslims and rape all those muslim girls and women. Perhaps, it was their opportunity to make their sick fantasies to come true. People were killed in Godhra incident, but not raped; shops were not burned down. The Godhra was targeted at one group (50-100) of people, NOT 100s of thousands of people. So, you think "Russian & Chinese revolutions" as a natural reaction by masses? LOL........Indian struggle for independence? Huh?! If thousands of Brits were killed and the Brit girls and women were raped, they would killed thousands of Indians. What if there was a "natural reaction" to the 9-11-01 terrorist attacks in this country? We are talking about 3,000+ deaths vs. 56 deaths. Do you know why thousands of muslims were not killed and/or raped? Not because the americans are saints and angels. There is such a thing as law enforcement here. Even if there was such "natural reaction", the govt. would have stepped in and squelched the uprising. Think about this: what if an incident similar to Godhra occurred in Kashmir or Afghanistan? Do you think those cowardly gujjus would have reacted the same way? Absolutely not. I can bet my life on it. They are sooooooooooo brave when they outnumber their victims by 1000 to 1. I am astonished by the 'highly educated' CHers, who continue to justify the aftermath of the Godhra incident. Is it because the victims were muslims?
I am glad that I am only a high school dropout to understand all these complexities....
Chill out guys... everyone has own views and that is that. Of late, in CH I notice that "if you don't agree with my view and my views ONLY, then you are this, that, and everything" In real world, MT Sonia joins hands with MK after accusing him for years of killing her PM husband. BSP joins hands with BJP, Fernandes - the holy socialist - is a close ally of BJP, the Commies are congress pals - while Indira went after the commies like a hound dog. Muslims are supporting Modi who is accused of killing them, and Mayawati allies with Brahmins - while installing Vengaya Naicker's statue at the same time.
The single-issue based judging adapted by many CHers are all signs of a child's mindset or a senile man's mindset.
Chill out guys... everyone has own views and that is that. Of late, in CH I notice that "if you don't agree with my view and my views ONLY, then you are this, that, and everything" In real world, MT Sonia joins hands with MK after accusing him for years of killing her PM husband. BSP joins hands with BJP, Fernandes - the holy socialist - is a close ally of BJP, the Commies are congress pals - while Indira went after the commies like a hound dog. Muslims are supporting Modi who is accused of killing them, and Mayawati allies with Brahmins - while installing Vengaya Naicker's statue at the same time.
The single-issue based judging adapted by many CHers are all signs of a child's mindset or a senile man's mindset.
> The single-issue based judging adapted by many CHers
What nonsense (as usual)!
Post something sensible on any topic and see what reaction you get.
In fact, your post today on docking umpires' match fees for clear errors is quite reasonable. (I didn't take the time to post my agreement earlier.)
What nonsense (as usual)!
Post something sensible on any topic and see what reaction you get.
In fact, your post today on docking umpires' match fees for clear errors is quite reasonable. (I didn't take the time to post my agreement earlier.)
Everyone knows by now that anyone whom you dont like or disagreeing with you is spouting nonsense according to you and of course you are the only learned sage who spouts wisdom 24/7.
Keep spouting. The only reason why many people are not jumping in to nastily criticize your posts is for the "overall" respect for your age - believe me - that is the only reason for me to stay mild in your case. So, step off the high pedestal and stop pontificating to everyone. The contraditions in your posts and actions are numerous and perennial to say the least, but most dont take them seriously bcz this is only a forum for people to "run" their mind through.
So stop censoring and censuring people's views - however wrong it might seem to you. If you think you (or your cohorts) are the only one who are sensible and super-intelligent level headed humanists - then you should also have the control to avoid the senseless, non-sensical people likeme.
Shouldn't be too hard for geniuses like you - rite ?
Keep spouting. The only reason why many people are not jumping in to nastily criticize your posts is for the "overall" respect for your age - believe me - that is the only reason for me to stay mild in your case. So, step off the high pedestal and stop pontificating to everyone. The contraditions in your posts and actions are numerous and perennial to say the least, but most dont take them seriously bcz this is only a forum for people to "run" their mind through.
So stop censoring and censuring people's views - however wrong it might seem to you. If you think you (or your cohorts) are the only one who are sensible and super-intelligent level headed humanists - then you should also have the control to avoid the senseless, non-sensical people likeme.
Shouldn't be too hard for geniuses like you - rite ?
> everyone has own views and that is that.
OK. That applies to those you cheaply label as fakularists, too.
> Of late, in CH I notice that "if you don't agree with my view and my views ONLY, then you are this,
> that, and everything"
That, too, applies to your cheap labeling of everyone who disagrees with you as a "fakularist."
> The single-issue based judging adapted by many CHers are all signs of a child's mindset or a
> senile man's mindset.
This statement is also of the "then you are this, that, and everything" kind. ;)
OK. That applies to those you cheaply label as fakularists, too.
> Of late, in CH I notice that "if you don't agree with my view and my views ONLY, then you are this,
> that, and everything"
That, too, applies to your cheap labeling of everyone who disagrees with you as a "fakularist."
> The single-issue based judging adapted by many CHers are all signs of a child's mindset or a
> senile man's mindset.
This statement is also of the "then you are this, that, and everything" kind. ;)
> I am astonished by the 'highly educated' CHers, who continue to justify the aftermath of the Godhra incident.
"Highly schooled" is more like it.
> Is it because the victims were muslims?
Good question.
"Highly schooled" is more like it.
> Is it because the victims were muslims?
Good question.
an important part of the constitutional duties of narendra modi, gujarat's elected chief minister and his government, and of lal kishenchand advani, the then union home minister, was to protect all the citizens of gujarart - regardless of their religion, caste, or sex - and their property, from violence of all kinds, including, and perhaps, in particular, what you call "a natural reaction."
narendra modi did not merely fail to protect the citizens of gujarat; he and his government were complicit (had partnership) in the the post godhra violence - mass murder, rape, arson, looting, and destruction of property - directed at the muslims of his state.
for a detailed account, and evidence of modi's and his government's complicity, read the report by Human Rights Watch, an international human rights organization, to which i've posted a link in my reply to punjabilad.
flimflam
Modi has certainly raised the bar of a CM's performance.I watched with interest his speech in the HT summit,anchored by Rajdeep Sardesai of last month.This is posted on youtube.Instead of sticking with the theme of the summit-the future of India,Sardesai and all those present,were taking great pleasure in discussing Godhra.Anyway,the chaos that prevailed in Gujarat in 2002 was a reaction to Godhra.But coming back to the point that you've raised,it is indeed a national shame that the elite Indian mindset is to focus on Godhra rather than the fantastic changes Modi has heralded in his state.we,as a people should be asking the CM's of other states why their states have lagged behind Gujarat in terms of progress.Modi made some brilliant points during his speech.One that impressed me most was that we should have made the development of the nation a movement-like the movement for independence.He pointed out that in order for any movement to be successful,one had to be emotional about it.That is why India was successful in getting her independence.People were emotional.They believed their contribution would make a difference.But,our current politicans have not been able to stir any feeling in minds of the common man.
I have read you blog on the apathy of Indians/Hindus.And I couldn't agree more with what you've said.Our indifference to the Hindus struggle during the Bhrindenwale time,the plight of Hindus in Kashmir,attack on the Parliament,train blasts in Mumbai have got such a luke warm response from journalists like Sardesai and his "secular"thinking clan.This mindset ,even apparent by the questions posed by the audience in the HT summit is a national tragedy.And this mindset is the spoke in the wheel for the progress of India.
It's frustrating to see the news reporting in big dalies like TOI.Even more sickning is the indifference in the common man.Blogs like movie reviews get a bigger readership than those dealing with hard hitting truths like the Hindus need to wake up.When will the apathetic idiot Hindu see the truth?When all his women have been raped?or when he loses his identity?or when he loses his land like the pundits in Ksahmir?
Only in India could you have had a Sikh PM or a Muslim President.A foreign illeterate Italian woman grooming her good for nothing son to be the future PM.Would America ever have a non Christian as their President?
We need more leaders like Modi,who take pride in being Hindu,are not apologetic about that and also bring about big economic changes.
But enjoy reading you posts and visit your blog regular
I have read you blog on the apathy of Indians/Hindus.And I couldn't agree more with what you've said.Our indifference to the Hindus struggle during the Bhrindenwale time,the plight of Hindus in Kashmir,attack on the Parliament,train blasts in Mumbai have got such a luke warm response from journalists like Sardesai and his "secular"thinking clan.This mindset ,even apparent by the questions posed by the audience in the HT summit is a national tragedy.And this mindset is the spoke in the wheel for the progress of India.
It's frustrating to see the news reporting in big dalies like TOI.Even more sickning is the indifference in the common man.Blogs like movie reviews get a bigger readership than those dealing with hard hitting truths like the Hindus need to wake up.When will the apathetic idiot Hindu see the truth?When all his women have been raped?or when he loses his identity?or when he loses his land like the pundits in Ksahmir?
Only in India could you have had a Sikh PM or a Muslim President.A foreign illeterate Italian woman grooming her good for nothing son to be the future PM.Would America ever have a non Christian as their President?
We need more leaders like Modi,who take pride in being Hindu,are not apologetic about that and also bring about big economic changes.
But enjoy reading you posts and visit your blog regular
If he wins that will be good for the "secularists", they can beat the same drums again for 5 more years.