Benazir killed!
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Da UnderTaker711 posted Re:Benazir killed! on 10 mnths agoI'm convinced that musharaff is the best leader for pak. them islamis need a strongman that doesnt hesitate to trample all over civil rights to keep them in line. can you imagine what chaos egypt would be in without mubarak? those neanderthals need a brutal strongman to subjugate their asses so they dont slide all the way back to 7th century.
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a good article in rediff http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/dec/27raman.htm
it seems the handiwork of army-islamic terrorists.
it seems the handiwork of army-islamic terrorists.
hello yash ,
tragedy ...na ...ill read your article .now :)
tragedy ...na ...ill read your article .now :)
hi jai,
kashi aahes? kal ol navtis?:(
hope u were not busy plotting what we read in news 2day :p
regarding benazir this was along expected lines i think, so not overtly surprised.
i am concerned abt pak gradually going in the hands of islamic terrorists as these junior level islamic officers move up in the next few years
kashi aahes? kal ol navtis?:(
hope u were not busy plotting what we read in news 2day :p
regarding benazir this was along expected lines i think, so not overtly surprised.
i am concerned abt pak gradually going in the hands of islamic terrorists as these junior level islamic officers move up in the next few years
Solution:
Ban nepotism in politics.
Countries like India and Pakistan can amend the constitution so that no close relative of a minister or president can hold any executive position in the government. This will prevent thugs like Stalin becoming a chief minister.
A really good suggestion. I can bet that not a single party / politician will support this ;-(
Remember that bill about anti-corruption ( to disallow politicians with criminal background from standing in elections or some such bill ? ) - it was not supported by any political party. We need a dozen TN Seshans at ALL levels in bureaucratic and EC levels to achieve this.
Ban nepotism in politics.
Countries like India and Pakistan can amend the constitution so that no close relative of a minister or president can hold any executive position in the government. This will prevent thugs like Stalin becoming a chief minister.
A really good suggestion. I can bet that not a single party / politician will support this ;-(
Remember that bill about anti-corruption ( to disallow politicians with criminal background from standing in elections or some such bill ? ) - it was not supported by any political party. We need a dozen TN Seshans at ALL levels in bureaucratic and EC levels to achieve this.
hey guys ,
let us not fight with each other now .
this is the time for prayers and being together ..
no blame game or pointing fingers .or putting ones point of view across ..for no reason .
ahemm sorry ..but im a bit upset
let us not fight with each other now .
this is the time for prayers and being together ..
no blame game or pointing fingers .or putting ones point of view across ..for no reason .
ahemm sorry ..but im a bit upset
No need to be so sympathetic towards a pakistani leader,though from human angle it's quite sad.Every pak leader encouraged cross border terrorism,Benazir was no exception and india was victim all the time, So tears should be shed from human angle for all those indian lives lost,Eg:all those kashmiri pandits thrown out of their own homes.....Hai na Jaijui..........
Why do WE need to be together and pray?It happened in pakistan,not in india,though it can affect india.
goodc,
yes from the human angle ..who am i to want to punish Bhutto or anybody else for that matter ..?
she has already been dealt with .
Prayer ? why pray ? to give everyone sat buddhi, peace of mind .
some one has said... Lord Tennyson i think ..... " More things are wrought by prayer ..than this world dreams of " :)
If i see a dead squirrel on the street . i send up an immediate prayer to bless its soul !!
This just reinforces what a rogue contry Pakistan is. However two questions that immediately come to mind:
1. Why did she return to Pak after 8 yrs? Are people attracted to their destiny of death? Or is ambition so strong?
2. Why does US keep pumping billions of dollars in this country? To strengthen the rogue status?
1. Why did she return to Pak after 8 yrs? Are people attracted to their destiny of death? Or is ambition so strong?
2. Why does US keep pumping billions of dollars in this country? To strengthen the rogue status?
Hello Ms. Night, it's nice to hear from you!!
1. It's not a secret (well publicized) that Benazir was well aware of the risk(death) in returning to her homeland. Yes, her ambition was strong enough to propel her out of the comfy life in England to the fanatics-infested Pakiland.
2. US has been pumping billions of dollard into this dreadful country since its creation. No, NOT all of the money has been for the purpose of buying arms. Without the dollars, this country might be just like Ethiopia or Haiti! Shocked? It's true.
Since 09-11-01, billions of dollars have been 'pumped' into Paki govt. so that it can help the US to combat Taliban and Al Qaeda. What's wrong with that? This is the ONLY country on the face of the earth that has the resources and will to combat the evil forces across the world.
1. It's not a secret (well publicized) that Benazir was well aware of the risk(death) in returning to her homeland. Yes, her ambition was strong enough to propel her out of the comfy life in England to the fanatics-infested Pakiland.
2. US has been pumping billions of dollard into this dreadful country since its creation. No, NOT all of the money has been for the purpose of buying arms. Without the dollars, this country might be just like Ethiopia or Haiti! Shocked? It's true.
Since 09-11-01, billions of dollars have been 'pumped' into Paki govt. so that it can help the US to combat Taliban and Al Qaeda. What's wrong with that? This is the ONLY country on the face of the earth that has the resources and will to combat the evil forces across the world.
Thanks...Ameriasian, nice to hear from you too
1. Well that's it..wonder why her family allowed her to go back to the rogue state. Why cant people balance their ambition v/s security and well being? To die such a horrible death??
2. What is the guarantee the money pumped in by US is not used for terrorist activites? Can anyone really tell between a terrorist and civilian especially in Pak?
1. Well that's it..wonder why her family allowed her to go back to the rogue state. Why cant people balance their ambition v/s security and well being? To die such a horrible death??
2. What is the guarantee the money pumped in by US is not used for terrorist activites? Can anyone really tell between a terrorist and civilian especially in Pak?
[1. Why cant people balance their ambition v/s security and well being? To die such a horrible death??]
I suspect she was the "boss' in her family. I am sure they tried to stop her with no avail. As for Benazir's decision, her state of mind(ambition?) probably overpowered her sense of well being/security.
[2. What is the guarantee the money pumped in by US is not used for terrorist activites? Can anyone really tell between a terrorist and civilian especially in Pak?]
There is absolutely no guarantee the US $$$ are not used for terrorist activities. Blame the corrupt people of Pakiland, NOT the US govt.
I suspect she was the "boss' in her family. I am sure they tried to stop her with no avail. As for Benazir's decision, her state of mind(ambition?) probably overpowered her sense of well being/security.
[2. What is the guarantee the money pumped in by US is not used for terrorist activites? Can anyone really tell between a terrorist and civilian especially in Pak?]
There is absolutely no guarantee the US $$$ are not used for terrorist activities. Blame the corrupt people of Pakiland, NOT the US govt.
I dont know she returned to pak.
but the fact is US is "scared" of China/India becoming a super power. So as a means of keeping a check on India and also to spy upon china, they are pumping in the $$$$...
unfortunately, all these money are being put to the wrong use and this is the same money that is fuelling so many problems and terrorist activities.
but the fact is US is "scared" of China/India becoming a super power. So as a means of keeping a check on India and also to spy upon china, they are pumping in the $$$$...
unfortunately, all these money are being put to the wrong use and this is the same money that is fuelling so many problems and terrorist activities.
How you been, Sugartush? Long time no see. I missed you lots.
xoxo, Bittu
xoxo, Bittu
Hi Bittu - I was doing great until I heard this news. Feel sad when a life gets wasted like this. She should have lknown better; wonder why she returned. I am in cool Mumbai - as can be expected, dont have to cook, clean or drive....have moved here for some time as VP ....its been a very busy time except some campaigning work done for the Modi election.
Missed everyone at Suelkha including you
Missed everyone at Suelkha including you
hi nisha ,
hows life in mumbai ? wish i was there too ..aram ki zindagi na :)
yeah me too felt very bad when i heard this tragic news .
how's modi saheb doing ?
I was one happy camper for him
take care :)
regards,
jaijui
hows life in mumbai ? wish i was there too ..aram ki zindagi na :)
yeah me too felt very bad when i heard this tragic news .
how's modi saheb doing ?
I was one happy camper for him take care :)
regards,
jaijui
Really good jaijui; First 3-4 months felt terrible because of the noise and crowds but once past that the goodness sets in....dont have to drive like a zombie in cold winter :) Or come back from work and cook (being a vegetarian, outside food was not always an option); or clean up (maid would come in once a week or once in two weeks); and moreover with family in Mumbai, constant tension and a feeling of selfishness that I am so far away....now no more of that. Feels really comfortabe. My soul feels peaceful :) Will keep traveling to US though.
As to Modiji...you cannot believe how exciting it was to participate in the pre and post election campaigns. People of Gujarat have showed the English media the door and hopefully those in other states start taking cues. The environment in general in India is euphoric on many fronts. Good time to be here.
Take care:)
As to Modiji...you cannot believe how exciting it was to participate in the pre and post election campaigns. People of Gujarat have showed the English media the door and hopefully those in other states start taking cues. The environment in general in India is euphoric on many fronts. Good time to be here.
Take care:)
kyon? rajiv gandhi died in a similar fashion. indira gandhi was assassinated by her own bodyguard. WE are f-ed up. People of the Indian subcontinent are f-ed up. Glad to be away from there.
Hey Bittu, you seem to have missed out what happened in the land of milk and honey, the US.
Lincoln and Kennedy were assassinated. Ronald Reagan came close to death when he was actually shot at, was
lucky to survive.
Do we say the US is also f-ed up and will you be glad to be away from US ?!!
Pak is a special case of f-ed up land. PM Liaqat Ali Khan was assassinated in the same city as Benazir was today.
Zulfi Bhutto the PM was hanged by tinpot dictator Zia Ul Haq.
Sharief was ousted and exiled by Musharaff. Benazir was ousted twice from PM position and was warned not to return to Pak. and she's now gone. The severe interference of army, isi in the Pak politics and public life is a reason for most of
the instability.
atcg - IMHO, you should be careful with the words - it was not Tamil emotional pride -
in fact Tamils unequivocally condemned
Rajiv's assassination and distanced themselves from the l.t.t.e ways. The Tamils gave very vital contribution in
solving the Rajiv murder mystery. Rajiv's mistake was half-baked attempt to resolve
SL problem and inefficiency in making the best of the Indo-Lanka accord - this gave a chance for the Number One terr0rists of the world - the l.t.t.e b*stards to get back to him. l.t.t.e's pride is not Tamil pride.
Hey Bittu, you seem to have missed out what happened in the land of milk and honey, the US.
Lincoln and Kennedy were assassinated. Ronald Reagan came close to death when he was actually shot at, was
lucky to survive.
Do we say the US is also f-ed up and will you be glad to be away from US ?!!
Pak is a special case of f-ed up land. PM Liaqat Ali Khan was assassinated in the same city as Benazir was today.
Zulfi Bhutto the PM was hanged by tinpot dictator Zia Ul Haq.
Sharief was ousted and exiled by Musharaff. Benazir was ousted twice from PM position and was warned not to return to Pak. and she's now gone. The severe interference of army, isi in the Pak politics and public life is a reason for most of
the instability.
ok i recant my earlier stand. Pakistan is especially f-ed up. India is better. The US is the best because the last assassination was in 1963 (kennedy) and the most recent assassination attempt was in 1981 (reagan).
what i was trying to say is that psychologically derailed people are everywhere. they make terrific suicide bombers. a politician in india/pakistan is many times more likely to succumb to an attack because security is a lot more lax than it is for an american president when he appears in public.
at times like this, i appeciate my life as a lowly techie.
what i was trying to say is that psychologically derailed people are everywhere. they make terrific suicide bombers. a politician in india/pakistan is many times more likely to succumb to an attack because security is a lot more lax than it is for an american president when he appears in public.
at times like this, i appeciate my life as a lowly techie.
Perhaps I'm seeing conspiracies but it seems inescapable that Musharraf is behind this, the army is behind this. I dont recall these many failed attempts with bombs and shots in India, leading finally to gory death. Rajiv was stupid to take on raw tamil emotional pride. Indira thought she could control the 'shers' of punjab.
It seems to me that Benazir was indeed a bit naive and probably believed in her own virtues too much and was no match for the wily General. US does not really have all that much influence over the course of events in the subcontinent and Benazir seems to have miscalculated the simmering hatred that her return would provoke.
atcg - IMHO, you should be careful with the words - it was not Tamil emotional pride -
in fact Tamils unequivocally condemned
Rajiv's assassination and distanced themselves from the l.t.t.e ways. The Tamils gave very vital contribution in
solving the Rajiv murder mystery. Rajiv's mistake was half-baked attempt to resolve
SL problem and inefficiency in making the best of the Indo-Lanka accord - this gave a chance for the Number One terr0rists of the world - the l.t.t.e b*stards to get back to him. l.t.t.e's pride is not Tamil pride.
That was 1991. We have come up a long way. In the current phase of the country, no one will tolerate a politics driven assassination, aleast not of a major leader. No politician will be stupid enough to do that.
BTW, Indira Gandhi herself got many opponents killed to get out of her way. That's how it was in th 70's and 80's, face it. Even CIA killed leaders. That was the big cold war era. If you beleive the conspiracy theories, CIA staged the Zia-ul-haq and Indira Gandhi assassinations because both were a day away from starting a war against each other. And those wars could possibly have gotten Russia and USA involved and would have begun WW 3.
BTW, Indira Gandhi herself got many opponents killed to get out of her way. That's how it was in th 70's and 80's, face it. Even CIA killed leaders. That was the big cold war era. If you beleive the conspiracy theories, CIA staged the Zia-ul-haq and Indira Gandhi assassinations because both were a day away from starting a war against each other. And those wars could possibly have gotten Russia and USA involved and would have begun WW 3.
Rajiv & Indira both paid for their mistakes. I'm not saying that Benazir is saint. But politics of Pak r slightly sadder.
what the fuq? You make "mistakes"......therefore.....you deserve to be blown up by a suicide bomber?
No! But if you meddle with terrorisim, it will bite you at some point. Rajiv shouldnt 've meddled with LTTE and Indira with Akalis. Their meddling resulted in some serious losses for the innocent people. I am not saying that being blown by a suicide bomber is correct, but it is an expected consequence.
gotcha. i'm definitely not going to mess with terrorism or suicide bombers.
