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Sawtanter posted Re:General on 5 mnths agoDependence in some ways is is no doubt is a weakness but in many other ways its strength too.
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Prasadji
There are so many views here and it is at the end of the day individual perception of a person.
Dependence can be for the strength of the luved ones so how can u call it a weakness?
Dependence in professional, personal life in the part of society we are libving in but to let it not be our weakness is in our hands
There are so many views here and it is at the end of the day individual perception of a person.
Dependence can be for the strength of the luved ones so how can u call it a weakness?
Dependence in professional, personal life in the part of society we are libving in but to let it not be our weakness is in our hands
Hi Premsaran,
I found this topic interesting Dependence Strength or Weakness..
Well My view point is We cant live without depending on anyone in our life.
A child depending on his parents, We depending on friends for help sometimes, sometimes our neighbours, a wife depending on husband, are few examples. Here all we see one thing in common "Love to each other, a poweful pure bond. The willingness to share, sometimes our loved ones becoming weakness to us.
Then Dependence at times its meaning can be twisted. A person becoming a "Leech" sucking the blood of an innocent . For example
A Educated, healthy person. Instead of taking responsibility for his own life, his own actions, "not willing to work at all". Sitting at home, watching T.V: cricket, foot ball, all favourite stuffs.Thinking someone will provide him food, someone will work for him.Never thinking that person has its own life, his own problems to solve, has his own family to feed
If asked Why cant you search for a job, the answer is an " long Excuse"
They pay less, They make me work more, I cant work in the sun.I cant stay here, I am looking for a "Software Job", Wanted to go to U.S.Because they pay more, when this particular person has no experience in Software field at all. Is from another Background. Waiting someone will bring him a job at home, instead of him going to search the job
In this case I feel "Dependence turning to exploitation". Weaking the other.
so Dependence can sometimes be either "Positive" or " Negative"
Regards,
MayaAnil
I found this topic interesting Dependence Strength or Weakness..
Well My view point is We cant live without depending on anyone in our life.
A child depending on his parents, We depending on friends for help sometimes, sometimes our neighbours, a wife depending on husband, are few examples. Here all we see one thing in common "Love to each other, a poweful pure bond. The willingness to share, sometimes our loved ones becoming weakness to us.
Then Dependence at times its meaning can be twisted. A person becoming a "Leech" sucking the blood of an innocent . For example
A Educated, healthy person. Instead of taking responsibility for his own life, his own actions, "not willing to work at all". Sitting at home, watching T.V: cricket, foot ball, all favourite stuffs.Thinking someone will provide him food, someone will work for him.Never thinking that person has its own life, his own problems to solve, has his own family to feed
If asked Why cant you search for a job, the answer is an " long Excuse"
They pay less, They make me work more, I cant work in the sun.I cant stay here, I am looking for a "Software Job", Wanted to go to U.S.Because they pay more, when this particular person has no experience in Software field at all. Is from another Background. Waiting someone will bring him a job at home, instead of him going to search the job
In this case I feel "Dependence turning to exploitation". Weaking the other.
so Dependence can sometimes be either "Positive" or " Negative"
Regards,
MayaAnil
Thanks mayaji,
you have elobartely discussed the issue........ I am enriched with thoughts.........
Some times I feel tht when we depend on some one i get a feeling that they are assuming that i am weak..... but in reality we depend on a person only such time he is available... once he/she is not there we are prepared to do all jobs ourselves........dependence is also part of delegation......... delegation I see as a strength............ shall continue afterwards............
Prasad
you have elobartely discussed the issue........ I am enriched with thoughts.........
Some times I feel tht when we depend on some one i get a feeling that they are assuming that i am weak..... but in reality we depend on a person only such time he is available... once he/she is not there we are prepared to do all jobs ourselves........dependence is also part of delegation......... delegation I see as a strength............ shall continue afterwards............
Prasad
Hi Premsaran,
Well dependence is either strength or weakness depending upon the situation and perception of a human being. Well dependence without losing your individuality is strength and depence to escape from duties or due to lack of confidence is weakness.
A child depending on his parents during his childhood is Strength. Dependence of that child even when he grows big is weakness.
Parents depend on their children that is strength to both because it was those parents who provided that strength to their child.
An officer depends on his sub ordinate for the discharge of duties, it is strength because that officer is capable enough to get his work done.
A beggar depends on everyone for his food and daily living, that is weakness because he cannot strive hard to gain his money respectable.
If dependency is only a weakness , then are we all weak to depend on our politicians to rule us? Why cant one among us be a leader to rule? Alas I should say that our politicians take this depency as our weakness.
So it is in the eye of the beholder whether dependency is strength or weakness.
Well dependence is either strength or weakness depending upon the situation and perception of a human being. Well dependence without losing your individuality is strength and depence to escape from duties or due to lack of confidence is weakness.
A child depending on his parents during his childhood is Strength. Dependence of that child even when he grows big is weakness.
Parents depend on their children that is strength to both because it was those parents who provided that strength to their child.
An officer depends on his sub ordinate for the discharge of duties, it is strength because that officer is capable enough to get his work done.
A beggar depends on everyone for his food and daily living, that is weakness because he cannot strive hard to gain his money respectable.
If dependency is only a weakness , then are we all weak to depend on our politicians to rule us? Why cant one among us be a leader to rule? Alas I should say that our politicians take this depency as our weakness.
So it is in the eye of the beholder whether dependency is strength or weakness.
I think it's both ways....I don't knwo why people dispise dependence , without dependence there is no root to relationships..
If you do not miss a persons presence then you are not dependent on her/him...and there buy you don't have an attchment...nwo if you argue the attachment is just 'MAYA' then we all mere mortals live in MAYA..
if you take teh whole world universe everything si dependent on eachother if one falls apart everything falls away..
If you do not miss a persons presence then you are not dependent on her/him...and there buy you don't have an attchment...nwo if you argue the attachment is just 'MAYA' then we all mere mortals live in MAYA..
if you take teh whole world universe everything si dependent on eachother if one falls apart everything falls away..
essential for survival....
one might think they are weak....but they survive the last lap....
one who think its 'great' to be independent takes a road less travelled....
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True for emotional dependence.
But its also important to point out a subtle difference - daily works vs. financial vs. emotional dependence.
A person capable of being independent choosing to depend is not same as a person who never improved upon self (in terms of education, work-career, driving, cooking - applies to men etc) to become independent if need be.
True for emotional dependence.
But its also important to point out a subtle difference - daily works vs. financial vs. emotional dependence.
A person capable of being independent choosing to depend is not same as a person who never improved upon self (in terms of education, work-career, driving, cooking - applies to men etc) to become independent if need be.
Interesting question!
Here is how "I" see it......I don't think any human being is "completely independent"...we are ALWAYS
"inter-dependent" on other human beings (some more than others..and sometimes more dependent than others!)
*Of course total dependency (be it economic/emotional) is not healthy...just as "total detachment" is not healthy either...only sociopaths can think their lives is entirely/Only about "them".
Quoting the Dalai Lama: "We come into the world as the result of others' actions. We survive here in dependence on others. Whether we like it or not, there is hardly a moment of our lives when we do not benefit from others' activities"."
M
".....only sociopaths can think their lives is entirely/Only about "them"."
Yup, like that nutcase Ted Kaczynski aka Unabomber?
Do you think 'total dependency' is also bad in marriages? IMO, eventhough marriage is all about sharing (partnership), one should never become totally dependent on his/her spouse. You never know what could happen (separation/divorce/death).
Yup, like that nutcase Ted Kaczynski aka Unabomber?
Do you think 'total dependency' is also bad in marriages? IMO, eventhough marriage is all about sharing (partnership), one should never become totally dependent on his/her spouse. You never know what could happen (separation/divorce/death).
To decide we need to examine several facotrs; dependence on what ? Answer to this question which determines whether it is a strength or weakness.
Dependence in my openion is a function of 1. necessity , 2. ignorence, 3 habit and many more factors . Before we can state conclusively we need to examine them .
Dependence which seems to be weakness may be strenght in other context.
Dependence in my openion is a function of 1. necessity , 2. ignorence, 3 habit and many more factors . Before we can state conclusively we need to examine them .
Dependence which seems to be weakness may be strenght in other context.
''Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.''
It says all.
Promilla
It says all.
Promilla
My theory is - One should have all the knowledge and experience to do things as if your spouse were not there - completely independent - once achieved, become dependent on each other again.
Kaise mizaaz hain aap ke janab-e-ala?
Ek dum Doorust.
Agar aap hum se mukhatibh hai toh!
Agar aap hum se mukhatibh hai toh!
Mukhatib to hain thoda bahot mohtarma.
Kabhi aise bhi lamhe aaye zindagi me jab chalaate waqt gaadi, kho gayeen nazaren Shuunya me takte?
Laal batti pe khud-ba-khud ruk bhi gaye aur khayaalon ka dariya jaise ruka hi nahi?
Hua hai aapke saath?
Kabhi aise bhi lamhe aaye zindagi me jab chalaate waqt gaadi, kho gayeen nazaren Shuunya me takte?
Laal batti pe khud-ba-khud ruk bhi gaye aur khayaalon ka dariya jaise ruka hi nahi?
Hua hai aapke saath?
I take a middle stand on it. It is a strength when you are in a good relationship,where each one is dependent on the other for a peaceful life. You both take responsibility to see that the wheels in the life cycle is well-oiled. When this dependence becomes clinging then it is a sure weakness. You might allow the other person in your life to take a lead a few times, but if you are a complete misfit in taking a stance or shoulder a responsibility then you need to take stock.
chandrika
chandrika
will see it as a weakness
reflector
reflector
well its not a weakness......
if you need help, ask for it, depend on others....
if you don't depend on others, why are others made for?
all the world moves on dependence naaa
Mutual dependence is the cause of relations and attachment.... see practical true love is non existent... so its the worldly affairs of inter-dependence that bind us.....
A child to parents , hubby-wife-children... all depend on each other... so hjow could such a vast activity be a weakness......
DEPENDENCE is the strength that keeps us bound together.....
Reffy,
You need to explain that..analysts arent allowed to get away by making absoloute statements
You need to explain that..analysts arent allowed to get away by making absoloute statements
vish
analysts are not used to explaining...
analysts are not used to explaining...
:) Not when they have a client like me..psychopath,sociopath or whatever path as long as it leads to an interesting woman at the other end..and if she is an analyst ,wow... on this forum there are two of them I notice..so i am on multitracks
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