JODHA- AKBAR
started by lotuspetals 8 mnths agoReplies
Indians cannot make good war movies.RETARDED SONGS AND RETARDED LOVE TRIANGLES HAVE DESTROYED OUR DRAMA.Secondly we just don't have the skill to make movies like Brave heart,Ben her or Movies of Akira kurosuva.We lack originality.jODHA AND AKHBAR IS FOR KIDS.The war secenes and the acts performed by hritik roshan are stupendous and only kids will enjoy them.One Good war scene takes months of efforts.
The movie is releasing on the 15th of Feb. Were you part of some special screening to know in advance about the War scenes????
As for songs... they are now a vital part of Indian cinema. yes, at times they have spoilt the movie, but many a times, the music, songs have saved movies... & made it enjoyable. But I agree, it should strictly depend on what the story/script demands, not just as an added attraction. I wouldnt mind seeing some song by Tansen or some dance/song routine in Akbar's court as that was part of the history & facts...but a love song sequence between a Akbar-Jodha is not really needed.
Yes, we do suck in war/period dramas.... very rarely has India come up with good period/war movies... Haqeeqat by Chetan Anand being one exception. A couple of Marathi movies on Shivaji & his loyal warriors were also nicley done. Mughal-e-Azam war scene was another popular one. Shyam Benegal has directed some good war events in his serial.."Bharat ek Khoj" . One has big expectations from the talented director, Ashutosh Gowarikar on how he handles all those war scenes. First he need to break this mindset of immature Indian audience that Akbar Jodha is about some Muslim King & it has nothing to do with Indian history & Hindu audience...(currently thats what is being projected by the hindu fanatics & political parties). Expect some fanatical muslim group to also find some fault & release a fatwa on Ashutosh Gowarikar & Hrithik Roshan after the movie release.
Look at the hilarious war scenes of serials like Ramayana & Mahabharata with all those sound effects & how the arrows smooch & explode..LOL. When will they grow out of it??? I think like it needed a Richard Attenborough to immortalize a GANDHI on screen, it might need a Ron Howard, Oliver Stone or a Steven Speilberg...to really capture the great war scenes of Ramayana & Mahabharata. Peter Jackson of Lord of the Rings fame should also be good enough to do a great job on the script of Ramayana & Mahabharata.
nyaya ,
can't be true.
the movie is made by ashutosh gowarikar .he is very precise ...
.of lagaan ...swadesh fame ..
it will be very good ..
in comparison with brave heart? war scenes have to realistic.this movies has stupid songs and dances.
ok maybe we have to go with the songs and dances ..and thats not bad ..its to be done for our public .
brave heart was done for warmongers
not my kind of history anyway and realism ? well it costs a bundle needing correct technology ..its ok if we don't have it ..
get your imagine to work exra time
..good looker too !! well he was a movie star once ..
(just kidding).The Manusmriti falls true everytime we speak of ornaments and constumes.
I am surprised... in todays world the Rajputs & the hindu fanatics are capable of claiming that Jodha never married any of the moghuls...nor Akbar nor Jehangir... but infact she married Birbal... the Hindu minister in Akbar's court.
:D :D
As far as I remember wasnt, Mansingh Jodhabai's nephew or something...... & Jehangir married Mansingh's sister.
Relationships made clear:
In 1586, Jodhabai arranged a marriage of her son, Prince Salim (later Jahangir), to Man Singh's sister Princess Manmati, who was the mother of Prince Khusro. Jodhabai died in 1611. As per her last wishes a vav or step well was constructed by Jahangir.
Another Mughal royal named Jagat Gosain aka Jodhi Bibi was the daughter of Udai Singh of Jodhpur, and a wife of Jahangir. She was the mother of Prince Khurram (later Shah Jahan).
Why do all the history books say he married Jodhaabai?
The fact that Akbar did have Rajput wives is indisputable.
At the time controversy was raised about sawaria and om shanti om! all the people ,mostly went to see both the movies!
Please read my reply again, even the relationships I pointed out.
Let me clarify - 3 Rajput women -
1. Jodha Bai - married Akbar
2. Jodhi Bibi - married Jahangir, renamed to Jagat Gosain
3. Princess Manmati - also married Jahangir, mother of Shah Jehan, also called Begum Sahiba Jodh Bai.
Protesting rajputs are simply being "selective" in their presentation of truth akin to film makers.
Incomplete truth is worse than a white lie.
Why do Tamils throng to visit the Taj Mahal.
Why did YOU visit the Taj Mahal? Even when u knew no hindi and were scared (since u were young) u were enthuiastic enough to visit Taj Mahal.
Mughals were great patrons of Indian classical music, architecture, paintings, gardens, etc. and they have played an important role in the evolution of Indian culture.
At its peak, Mughal India was the wealthiest empire in the world.
I hope they also show that he butchered 40000 rajputs with the women commiting Jauhar in that movie, to avoid being captured.
Regarding Taj Mahal, the inner sanctum has a wonderful marble partitions, and they were very intricate carvings, which were wonderful. Interestingly if I remember right they also had colour. I do not know why the Mughal King had the arms of the craftsmen cut. That is being so cruel to somebody who did the work for him.
But for carvings outside the monument, Taj Mahal can't even hold a candle to the carvings made out of rock in Belur and Halabeedu in Karnataka.
You cannot compare Islamic carvings with hindu carvings.Islam strictly prohibits 'murtis' ,images of humans in any form.What should be appreciated about the Islamic architecture is its grandness.No hindu kingdom,no hindu king,no group of Bhatts could have ever designed the hudge buildings.We just never could develop.I blaim hinduism for our backwardness.Hindus lagged behind big time up until the 11the ceunturuy,when the turks sultans built great mosques and the minarets.I am not a fan of Islam,but our religion kept us from growing.
You 'blame Hinduism for our backwardness' is not a statement based on facts, if i may say so. The Mughals and other invaders anhilated all our great monuments they could. You would not think Hinduism is backward, if the great Nalanda, Takshila, Temples of Kanauj, Benaras, Somnath, etc. were not demolished and trampled by the invaders and were still their in their grandeur today.
Read the greatness of Indian astronomy, math, irrigation, metallurgy, etc, at www.indianscience.org. A civilzation that was constantly plundered for a 1,000 years, obviously cannot offer much to a young Hindu like you in terms of physical remains. But let me tell you, the knowledge our ancestors have passed on, and documented, in the Vedas and the accompanying knowledge sources, if one understood even a bit of it, one would not blame Hinduism for lack of creativity. They were very observant, scientific, and believed in documenting the human experience to explain religion/philosophy, whereas the west put down dogma that HAD TO BE FOLLOWED OR ELSE. The Vedas (written around 2nd millenium BCE ) define the speed of light pretty accurately, when in Europe they were still fighting over the roundness of the Earth in the 16th century CE (AD).
Unfortunately, we Indians are all busy aping the west, so it is hard for us to see the forest through the trees. I recommend googling for information on Mittani, Pythogras and his Indian source of knowledge which defined the Greeks, etc., to learn how truly great our Indian ancestors were.
for some devious reason or another
i wonder if controversy on this movie...regarding jodha and jodhi blah blah..... is being released from the same source
no... don't scorn me .... anything can happen where big bucks are concerned
my poor Ashutosh sob sob