Amitabh is no longer a crowd puller
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Amitab might not be able to hop and jump and do acrobatics needed to entertaing the younger live audiences, but he is still the best actor in indian cinema. he has learnt to pick the roles right for his age unlike other heros who still prance around the bruch with girls in the grand daughter age group.
I agree with RS that the press was rather unkind to him after the whole Ash/Abhi wedding. the negative publicity the tour received even before the kick off was totally unfair.
I do not want to see amitab retire yet. that would leave a giant void in bollywood that no one can fill. in fact i would like to see him act into his 70s and 80s like that lady (forget her name) who played his mom in chini kum. she was super charming.
nah ... there is still no one like him in the indisutry... a look at his recent movies, the acting is still as intense as ever if we leave out buntys and bubblies.. just look at dev, viruddh, sarkar and raj, cheeni kum. not being able to pull crowds in live shows is a different thing, but as far as movies are concerned, he is still the emperor.
>>but as far as movies are concerned, he is still the emperor.
Is it because the younger competition is stale or because of his talent/roles?
I also liked him a lot in Baghban.. A good combination of youthful exuberance & oldie maturity. Holi Khele Raghuveera Avadh mein was fantastic! Some credit goes to that stunningly beautiful aunty Hema also.
Shows for 20 somethings in North America? Time to wrap up uncle.
Is it because the younger competition is stale or because of his talent/roles?
I also liked him a lot in Baghban.. A good combination of youthful exuberance & oldie maturity. Holi Khele Raghuveera Avadh mein was fantastic! Some credit goes to that stunningly beautiful aunty Hema also.
Shows for 20 somethings in North America? Time to wrap up uncle.
abbe uncle kisko bola !!!!
>Is it because the younger competition is stale or because of his talent/roles?
there is actually no competetition at all.. look at his contemporary actors - sanjay is good in bits and pieces - vastav and munna bhais, but these had a lot to do to good script and dialoges and crisp editing. anil is wasting himself in welcome and tashan types. jackie is not to be seen much. new comers are hopeless when it comes to acting.. dhoom and kris are successful for lot of other reasons than acting. not counting SRK at all ... om shanti om is one of the most boring movies i ever saw... aamir comes very close, but not there yet.
disclaimer - my personal views.
just the other day, i was playing some really old songs from amitabh movies for my daughter, and i still remember each and every line of those songs despite not having heard them in more than 10 years!
>Is it because the younger competition is stale or because of his talent/roles?
there is actually no competetition at all.. look at his contemporary actors - sanjay is good in bits and pieces - vastav and munna bhais, but these had a lot to do to good script and dialoges and crisp editing. anil is wasting himself in welcome and tashan types. jackie is not to be seen much. new comers are hopeless when it comes to acting.. dhoom and kris are successful for lot of other reasons than acting. not counting SRK at all ... om shanti om is one of the most boring movies i ever saw... aamir comes very close, but not there yet.
disclaimer - my personal views.
just the other day, i was playing some really old songs from amitabh movies for my daughter, and i still remember each and every line of those songs despite not having heard them in more than 10 years!
>>abbe uncle kisko bola !!!!
Dil pe mat le yaar
I was talking about the shehenshah himself.
>> there is actually no competetition at all..
I think Amir Khan is the closest competition I can think of. He is very calculative and doesn't sign en masse.
Sanjay is crap. Anil has talent, but doesn't really challenge AB. Hritik will always remain Chikna (thanks Munna bhai). Saif and Salman don't compete.
King Khan may be the only challenge, but don't know if his addiction to smoking kills him earlier than AB. Let's wait and see.
Dil pe mat le yaar
I was talking about the shehenshah himself.>> there is actually no competetition at all..
I think Amir Khan is the closest competition I can think of. He is very calculative and doesn't sign en masse.
Sanjay is crap. Anil has talent, but doesn't really challenge AB. Hritik will always remain Chikna (thanks Munna bhai). Saif and Salman don't compete.
King Khan may be the only challenge, but don't know if his addiction to smoking kills him earlier than AB. Let's wait and see.
Amitabh has pulled crowds long enough . he is a sweet heart .....Vancouver crowds dont treat anyone well :(
They even booed the Deols once ..! their own kind ... imagine !
isnt this the troupe that Amitabh is in with .....Aish and Abhishek and Madhuri are also there ?
what's to boo about ? sheesh !
They even booed the Deols once ..! their own kind ... imagine !
isnt this the troupe that Amitabh is in with .....Aish and Abhishek and Madhuri are also there ?
what's to boo about ? sheesh !
I don't know much about British Columbia crowd. I guess it's a small crowd of 10000 or so.
I am used to Nasseau collisium crowd in New York where it goes up to 35/40,000. Amazing arena. I don't know of any boos out here.
If that particular crowd is bad, like you & Sandilya are saying, may be Amitabh still has a good crowd expected in Germany. Is it?
I am used to Nasseau collisium crowd in New York where it goes up to 35/40,000. Amazing arena. I don't know of any boos out here.
If that particular crowd is bad, like you & Sandilya are saying, may be Amitabh still has a good crowd expected in Germany. Is it?
interesting. We tried both nj and ny. the seats that we wanted were booked. So we will need to cancel it.
BTW, in my household, Amitabh will NEVER retire. I once told my husband that I have written something on sulekha and opened the website and showed him the links.. so he took my laptop and I saw him reading intensely. Five-ten minutes later i went to check, he was reading bigadda.com
BTW, in my household, Amitabh will NEVER retire. I once told my husband that I have written something on sulekha and opened the website and showed him the links.. so he took my laptop and I saw him reading intensely. Five-ten minutes later i went to check, he was reading bigadda.com
There are couple of things why these Bollywood Shows & most of these Indian celebrities shows are failing abroad these days...
1. High ticket costs. The tickets prices are horrible. Waise bhi desis are kanjoos when it comes to spending these days. Not forgetting this tour comes during recession. Imagine how much gas one could buy with those ticket amount.
2. Over exposure of Bollywood celebrities in award function shows. They do the same in those award shows & now that Desi TV channels are easily accessible & available in USA, Canada, UK,etc... people are tired of watching the same stuff again & again. In earlier times..there werent too many award shows so there was a craze to watch these actors live. Now you see this actors on Desi TV channels almost regularly..thanks to re-runs of award shows all year long by these Desi TV channels..plus dozen of talk shows & movie promos.
These shows dont appeal to the younger NRI audience. The old folks who were nostalgic about India & Indian celebrities are diminishing since tnow they have India & those celebrities beamed right into their living rooms on TV.
3. Badly managed shows by the event organisers & promoters. Bad marketing is another factor.
1. High ticket costs. The tickets prices are horrible. Waise bhi desis are kanjoos when it comes to spending these days. Not forgetting this tour comes during recession. Imagine how much gas one could buy with those ticket amount.
2. Over exposure of Bollywood celebrities in award function shows. They do the same in those award shows & now that Desi TV channels are easily accessible & available in USA, Canada, UK,etc... people are tired of watching the same stuff again & again. In earlier times..there werent too many award shows so there was a craze to watch these actors live. Now you see this actors on Desi TV channels almost regularly..thanks to re-runs of award shows all year long by these Desi TV channels..plus dozen of talk shows & movie promos.
These shows dont appeal to the younger NRI audience. The old folks who were nostalgic about India & Indian celebrities are diminishing since tnow they have India & those celebrities beamed right into their living rooms on TV.
3. Badly managed shows by the event organisers & promoters. Bad marketing is another factor.
RS - I used to be a regular to these events in late nineties & early 00's. Aishu, Akshay, Daler Mehndi, Johnny Lever were some of my favorites.
I would rate Daler Mehndi's shows as some of the best. He used to get half of the crowd on their feet & dance. Excellent entertainer.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of the audience are Bangladeshis & Pakis... particularly for Shah Rukh. Once I landed up amidst rows rull of BDs and the BD girls from Long Island/Queens are such fanatical followers of SRK.
What people really want after paying 40 to 100 bucks is all round entertainment. Most people want regular dance & song stuff, not too much of jazzy heavy techno orientation. Also, folks like Akshay are big hits because they have the ability to surprise by making unexpected entries, mingling with crowd etc.
I would rate Daler Mehndi's shows as some of the best. He used to get half of the crowd on their feet & dance. Excellent entertainer.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of the audience are Bangladeshis & Pakis... particularly for Shah Rukh. Once I landed up amidst rows rull of BDs and the BD girls from Long Island/Queens are such fanatical followers of SRK.
What people really want after paying 40 to 100 bucks is all round entertainment. Most people want regular dance & song stuff, not too much of jazzy heavy techno orientation. Also, folks like Akshay are big hits because they have the ability to surprise by making unexpected entries, mingling with crowd etc.
>What people really want after paying 40 to 100 bucks is all round entertainment. Most people want regular dance & song >stuff
all the more reason why i avoid such shows. i would gladly pay (and have done so) to listen to jagjit or ghulam ali or any classical singers. dont even watch such shows on TV when they are telecasted for free. :P
all the more reason why i avoid such shows. i would gladly pay (and have done so) to listen to jagjit or ghulam ali or any classical singers. dont even watch such shows on TV when they are telecasted for free. :P
yeah, this gay rukh khan dances like a hooker in the wedding parties. you thorw him some money, he will strip his clothes and dance in your studio apartment with no heat.
Amitabh used to be a great crowd puller & a pioneer of sorts for all these younger actors for all these live shows. But surely one cannot expect Amitabh to give the same energy & moves at this stage of his life. That is where Shahrukh , Akshay, Hrithik , Salman,etc score higher in providing entertainment value. Currently, when it comes to live entertainment I think Shahrukh is King... he knows how to keep people involved. Hrithik Roshan was the best when it comes to dancing..he gives his 100% there. Couple years back when Hrithik & Aishwarya came together...they were brilliant. Even Aishwarya Rai gives her 100% in live shows.... she really dances well live too. Akshay is sometimes boring he gets into those singing frenzy. Shahrukh Khan's show is well managed & well packaged in terms of content.... he knows the knack of keeping a live audience engrossed & involved.
The Unforgetable show also started with a lot of negative publicity from the media (who were still upset about the refusal of coverage of the Ash-Abhi wedding) & the Shahrukh Khan gang (media folks)... there was a lot of negative publicity which went into much before the show started. An ugly scenario which wasnt witnessed earlier in Indian cinema. But still it is failure on part of Amitabh & the celebrities, the event organisers, the promoters for not putting up a great package for the audience.
While currently, Shahrukh Khan might be the numero Uno when it comes to Live performances, when it comes to movies, reel life....Amitabh Bachan still rocks as the shaheshah of Indian cinema, while Shahrukh Khan is still refered to as the King. Amitabh excels Shahrukh Khan when it comes to acting & he is has been churning out some of his best performances lately ..after he shed that one man angry man image some years back.
The Unforgetable show also started with a lot of negative publicity from the media (who were still upset about the refusal of coverage of the Ash-Abhi wedding) & the Shahrukh Khan gang (media folks)... there was a lot of negative publicity which went into much before the show started. An ugly scenario which wasnt witnessed earlier in Indian cinema. But still it is failure on part of Amitabh & the celebrities, the event organisers, the promoters for not putting up a great package for the audience.
While currently, Shahrukh Khan might be the numero Uno when it comes to Live performances, when it comes to movies, reel life....Amitabh Bachan still rocks as the shaheshah of Indian cinema, while Shahrukh Khan is still refered to as the King. Amitabh excels Shahrukh Khan when it comes to acting & he is has been churning out some of his best performances lately ..after he shed that one man angry man image some years back.
Besides, it will interesting to see if SRK gets to be 65 and kicking like this, given his chain smoking and family history.
I remember Amitabh saying once that it is unfair to compare him to SRK, a younger actor, the same way it would be unfair to compare SRK to the younger breed of actors.
I remember Amitabh saying once that it is unfair to compare him to SRK, a younger actor, the same way it would be unfair to compare SRK to the younger breed of actors.
gayrukh khan has the discipline to get a set of six pack at 40..I think he'll last. amitabh's chubby son should look at him for inspiration. whoever made that idiot an actor, I dont understand.
yeah, that bachchan son is ugly and he cannot act. whenever i see him, i think that a fly'll come around and sit on his nose and he won't even notice.
Somehow I like junior Bachchan after his 'ek main aur ek tu hai..' rap song. He never rehearses I hear, but delivers good enough.
Boring personality, but fits into roles like 'Guru' well.
Boring personality, but fits into roles like 'Guru' well.
My first Impression of Abhishek Bachan was bad.... his movie choices initially were worse...but he seems to have adapted well & is doing some sensible roles now... I started liking his performances after Yuva, Run,etc ....
He did good in both Sarkar & Sarkar-Raj, Yuva, Phir Milenge, Mumbai se aaya mera Dost, Guru, Bluffmaster, Naach & Run.
He did good in both Sarkar & Sarkar-Raj, Yuva, Phir Milenge, Mumbai se aaya mera Dost, Guru, Bluffmaster, Naach & Run.
bachchan is definitely a better actor but i don't think that there are many people who want to watch him dancing on stage. gay rukh khan is loved by silly girls and there is no dearth of them on this earth. but gay rukh khan is witty and confident. i have not seen anybody as confident as that mofo.
Even in his movies Amitabh was known for cheesy dancing rather than dance routines and you would not pay money to see him dance and mime songs. HOwever if he is a good story teller people would pay him a fortune for after dinner speeches.
Shahrukh Khan is the better Bol Bachan than Amitabh Bachan...
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but i have to give it to gay rukh khan for being at the top. i could have never imagined that someone looking that fugly can become darling of the masses.
yaar, Indian cinema has a history of such superstars.... Amitabh, Dilip Kumar, Shahrukh, Rajnikanth, NTR, ANR, MGR, Chiranjeevi, Mammooty...... it is also their star value, acting ( for some of the above) , charisma ..... plus ofcourse the movies, the directors & the banners they have been associated with.
I vaguely remember some of these old-timers (except Amitabh) because there were on their way to retirement by the time I was interested in movies. I am glad there aren't any domineering hero and heroine in bollywood and tollywood. It was ridiculous to see some of these guys 'singing' and running around the trees with heroines 30+ years younger than them. I think ANR even acted in one movie with SriDevi!!!!!!!!!!
music plays an important role, too. kishore kumar's songs made rajesh khanna and jatin lalit's songs made gay rukh khan.
Yup...Shahrukh Khan is more like Shammi Kapoor & Dev Anand... a superstar for whom music in their movies did play a very big role. Very rarely have we seen a Shahrukh Movie succeed when the music of that movie was average or below average.
Not really true for the rest of the people mentioned above. They have carried movies to sucess even when it didnt really have the best music.
Not really true for the rest of the people mentioned above. They have carried movies to sucess even when it didnt really have the best music.
Dharmendra was extremely handsome in his younger days and so was Shashi Kapoor too. Of the new age stars Shah Rukh and I like Shahid. I don't have the patience to sit through Shahrukh's movies but I love watching him on stage. Compared to his old Fauji look he's grown smarter with age.
and dev anand in his younger days just WOW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt15gtRMObU
and dev anand in his younger days just WOW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt15gtRMObU
However, Amitab Bacchan is not young any more and like other famous actors, he has to learn that his fan base will gradually decline, especially if he tries to do young stuff at his not so young age.
I wanted to go, but later changed my mind.