Eating Beef

started by BladeRunner 7 mnths ago
Why do most indians not eat beef but eat other meat? Is it only for religious reasons?

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  BittuZing posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
i consider such restrictions primitive. I'm born into a Hindu family but I don't give a fuq. The hell with religion, god, afterlife, beforelife....all's that matter's is THIS life, bytches. I eat everything. Kobe steak = yum x 100.

later, B
  gowser posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
Kobe beef was good.
  BittuZing posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
It's still good.


  jaijui posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
at least in this case  ..keep the swearing out  ..bad enough you've taken a life     ! 
  BittuZing posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
oh shut it.



  Vivek posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
If it's not because of taste then its because of hypocrisy. I can't see any other reason.

Personally, I never spare any vegetable from my plate because of religious reasons or otherwise.
 
If I were a meat eater then, unless I reject it because of taste, a meat is a meat, is a meat.
  Maria S posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago


Are you a non-vegetarian?  If you are...you will know...a meat is NOT, is a meat...

Every meat has it's unique flavor and taste..be it mutton, beef, chicken, pork, deer meat *venison..all kinds of other "exotic meat".(I have had all kinds (!) and they are def. not the same).

M

  Vivek posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
"Every meat has it's unique flavor and taste..be it mutton, beef, chicken, pork, deer meat *venison..all kinds of other "exotic meat".(I have had all kinds (!) and they are def. not the same)."

Yes, the same true for all vegetables. Every vegetable has a unique taste and a vegetable can taste different in different places. I will not eat a vegetable only if I don't like the taste, texture or cooking. Not because of any other reason. The same goes for meat too.

I have always been a vegetarian. To me people who eat meat look like hypocrites when they say they don't eat a certain type of meat because of religious reasons.
  jaijui posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
yes Vivek  ..nonvegetarians  make all kinds of excuses  ..in order to continue eating meat ...actual reality is they like the taste  .and are addicted enough  not to let go of it  ..who cares about the animal in question ...
so they practice  " Offence is the best defence  "  kind of theory  ...


  gowser posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
I think what he meant was that if you eat one dead animal then the only excuse to not eat  another animal is because you do not like its taste.  Any other reason woud simply be hypocritical.
  Vivek posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago




  Maria S posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago

Speaking for myself..I just don't care for the taste..I can't stand steak!

*No matter how much I have tried using different combinations...(to me) Indian masala does not go that well in cooking beef, unlike mutton.

M

  carvaka posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
> I can't stand steak!

I don't like steak that much myself. But Korean beef preparations are delicious. You should try bulgogi-bibimbap when you have a chance to; it is the best beef preparation I've eaten.
  Maria S posted Re:Carvaka-Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
Thanks Carvaka,

Will consider your suggestion and try it when I can...just for the name of the prep, if nothing else!

M



  Job less fella posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
ask your paki friends,they cook beef using masalas


  jyojo23 posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago

 I believe that basically man is a vegeratian animal .

Because of the climatic conditions,availibility food, nature of occupation he began to eat the flesh of other animals.

As already said by some one , Hinduism does not chalk out a  vegeterian diet. 

Vegetatrian diet is easy to digest and procure for the mankind .

 When one eats flesh of the other animal, certain Harmones of the animal involuntarily get transfered into our body. Knowingly/unknowingly our psychic  emotions get influenced by the harmones consumed .

By the way, there was a lot of outcry here in US regarding the slaughter of infected cows . The pictures showed  were regarding  the inhuman conditions  of draging the infected sick cow to the slaughter house .The Beef packed ,was called back, suspecting the infection to be carried to the people .There was a case reported of having infected due to the said beef  consumption

Not to mention the Bird flu which is spread in Asia due to the infected bird!

The Tape worm disease which spreads due to  infected pork ! 

In short we have to accept that some infection/ harmones , carried by the animal is bound to have effect on the human body some way or the other.

But these are only my views.others may differ  
And  Indians not eating beef is purily on religious feelings.

There are a few Logically minded Indians who eat beef in the Burgers saying "Once a NV , what is the harm in not eating beef,which is also an animal flesh ?Don't we drink Cow Milk and have cow milk products? It is also a protien from the same source 
then why not beef?"

Note : A lot of people including Americans and Europeans now a days are moving to vegetarian diet

  smitasamm posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
Hormones in animals are also affecting children who eat meat, some hormones in animals are used to boost their weight, hence better poundage of flesh, likewise from eating this children have more of a propensity to become obese.

In addition it is not possible to get food poisoning from vegetables, (aside undercooked beans and poisonous mushrooms) or some idiot who wishes to eat food a week or so old that has been left out on the counter.  Vegetable remnants can be thrown out to animals even after 4-5 days without any problem to the animals in question stomach.  However one can be poisoned by undercooked meat, contaminated meat and especially fish, not only stomach upset but fatal consequences.
  Mr. T posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
<< In addition it is not possible to get food poisoning from vegetables>>

This is not true...what about the contaminated Spinach scare we had in Us some 6 months ago ? 

  smitasamm posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
What was the spinach contaminated with?



  carvaka posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
I believe that basically man is a vegeratian animal .

If so, why does man have a bunch of canines in his jaw? 
  jaijui posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
carvaka,
even if he does  , they are not strong enough  ..he also has premolars and molars to chew  and grind   ..that veggies need . long intestines  needed  for veggies  to assimilate .food .
time for my lunch   take care   :))
  carvaka posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
So the presence of teeth to eat both meat and veggies shows that man is a natural omnivore -- not that he is a natural herbivore. Enjoy your lunch!



  Amerasian posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
"When one eats flesh of the other animal, certain Harmones of the animal involuntarily get transfered into our body. Knowingly/unknowingly our psychic  emotions get influenced by the harmones consumed."

Really??!! Is there a scientific basis for this statement? If so, please give us the info.

Viruses and bacteria are transferred to humans via animal flesh. Usually, this occurs when the meat is not cooked thoroughly (exception: Mad Cow disease). 

"...Logically minded Indians who eat beef in the Burgers..."

Interesting choice of words. In general, vegetarian food is safer and healthier than non-veg. food.
  jaijui posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
ameriasian,
okay  if not the hormones  getting transferred , the curses  and innocent cries of    the  slain animal definitely get  transferred  ...........no i can 't google or wiki this info of how i know ...i just  do  ..
even if proof were provided  ....the greedy nonveggie will ask for proof of another kind
this is an argument that need s to be left alone  ..

  gowser posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
Not necessarily if you keep any food incorrectly or eat in the wrong way it can make you really ill. 

Things like kidney beans have to be cooked well or they can make you really ill.  Cashew nuts have to be processed before we eat them else the acid around the seed is not very good for us. If you eat any vegetable as it gets rotten it will probably not make you feel too good meat is no different.

  Job less fella posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
actually he makes sense,near the pancreas there is another gland which is simulated if one eats high amounts of flesh.
hormones are definately affected.even the nature of the human sperm is affected.


  Job less fella posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
dude tape worms are transmitted not only from pigs,but even dogs or other animals.Even some vegetables can be infected with tape worms dude.

  Propagandhi1 posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
my ass humans are meant to be vegetarians. is this based on some anthropological evidence or are you repeating what your parents told you?
  jaijui posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
propagandhi,
never mind who told wat to whom ..use your brains and heart  ..the adult that youare  ..think for yourself ......and honestly  ask yourself  ..would you like to be the beef or pork on someones plate  tomorrow   ? 
  Propagandhi1 posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
I'd love to be the sausage on some lucky ladies' plate today.... ok, enough heavy insinuations for the day.




  scribblingpad posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
Hinduism has never advocated vegetarianism for all peeople. For those who were Brahmins only. this is because, for their sedenatry life of prayers and pujas, they burnt less calories and didn't need much animal protein. But kshatriyas ate it; Rama (see Adyatma rmayana) he eats permissible quantiities during vana prastha. Otherwise, they would not get the necessary energy for their exertions.To tell the truth, today, with every one travelling by cars and sitting at computers, nobody needs NV food. AS then, it would cause a whole lot of  other ailments.
    People eat other animals but not beef becasue beef is cow's meat. Cow is sacred animal,gomaatha.;we pray to teh cow which is sacred to us. Like a mother, it gives milk and is also useful in many ways, with its dun g used as Gobar gas; Urine used in Panchakavya.During pongal we worship cows on maatu pongal and nandhini, has been worshipped as a  divine  cow , the  cornucopia. As long as hinduism is valued, people will not eat beef.
  shakenbut!stirred posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
Scribbly
This makes a lot of sense.
A lot of meats were forbidden to be eaten because they were causing diseases (like Pork for Muslims) and people listened if there was a religious order restraining the eating!

  FluteHolder posted Re:Eating Beef >>Scribblingpad/Indophile on 7 mnths ago

  Rama (see Adyatma rmayana) he eats permissible quantiities during vana prastha

>>>
Can you provide any original link/sanskrit verse where this is said/written? Also If Indo can verify meaning
that would be great.

TIA.

  scribblingpad posted Re:Eating Beef >>Scribblingpad/Indophile on 7 mnths ago
ok. i will do so
scribbly


  Amerasian posted Re: [scribbingpad] Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
"Cow is sacred animal, gomaatha.;we pray to the cow which is sacred to us. Like a mother, it gives milk and is also useful in many ways, with its dun g used as Gobar gas; Urine used in Panchakavya. During pongal we worship cows on maatu pongal and nandhini, has been worshipped as a  divine  cow , the  cornucopia. As long as hinduism is valued, people will not eat beef."

Of course, most Indians are aware of that. Telling us about holy cow is like teaching G3 how to speak tamil.:)
I have a problem with designating a particular animal as holy/sacred but not other animals. Sheep and goat are as mild mannered as the cows. So, why are they not holy?
  scribblingpad posted Re: [scribbingpad] Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
goats have always been for sacrifice and for eating. it is not bakra maatha altho' it gives milk. iT IS FOR BALIDAAAN, BUT GO DHAAN IS EQUAL TO KANYADAAN.
The culture has been thus. We can't rationalize on culture.
Sheep is unheard of in most parts here.I haven't seen sheeps anywhere. Cow is here , there  everywhere
/WHA A....T A DOUBT?
It is not the same , my friend//
  Job less fella posted Re: [scribbingpad] Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago

you looook cute when you rant lol.

godhan=kanyadan LOL.

actually the reason hindus do not eat the cow is because many archarya's established the fact the cow can achieve moksha,because her nature by default is selfless.




  Job less fella posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
utter crap,you are just speaking out of the blue.

All hindus are required not to eat the cow.Adi shankara charya induced this rule long time back.Hindus did eat beef before him.He never said to worship a cow.Infact puranic hinduis is piece of crap.Devis and Devatas,it is not at all worship it is celebration.so please do not compare pooja with worship.

People eat other animals but not beef becasue beef is cow's meat. Cow is sacred animal,gomaatha.;we pray to teh cow which is sacred to us.

no one needs to worship a cow.It is plainly stupid.Again the immature mind of yours is forcing you to equate the concept of pooja with worship.

Pooja is not worship.
  sweep-07 posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
Job less fella:

Can you provide citations for this claim on Adi Shankaracharya and Hindus eating beef before him?


  scribblingpad posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
Pooja is not worship.

If  that is what u think, then u have to begin with ABCD. Pooja is worship, okie?And Hindus worship cows. IF u don't, then it means, ur people have forsaken that as unnecessary. Cow is equal to goddess. Don't u know even that?
scribbly

  Marathi_Manus posted Re:Pooja is not worship on 7 mnths ago
No way

read my dear woman,read on pooja.Pooja is not worship.Pooja is leela.Pooja is Utsav,Pooja is Praising.
  scribblingpad posted Re:Pooja is not worship on 7 mnths ago
Pooja is Praising.:)


Pssst... bhajan is  praising, right?
scribbly





  jaijui posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
no .in my opinion  ..the bigger the animal ..the more i feel for it ..and dep[ore its killing ..if i had to eat nonveg ..i would start with fish  and move upward to chicken ..
the cruelty meted out to the calf .cow, buffalo is  horrendous .living conditions .etc....so also the pig ..
we cannot afford to turn a a deaf ear to it..
its not that i dont care if the chicken is abused .......i do 

but  i feel less guilty somehow    and dont tell me that the vegetable too has life  and how  dare I eat it
so blade   lets leave the religous reasons aside    ..for now  
  Propagandhi1 posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
what if the fish in question is larger than a dog or a pig? for example I occasionally eat shark meat...would you feel worse eating a shark than you would abt eating a pig? also, to extend this smaller lifeform theory, would you eat a rat more than a chicken seeing how rat is usually smaller than chikin? enquiring minds and all that..
  jaijui posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago

propagandhi,

hi ist time seeing you   :) these  are the silly arguments i come across when discussing this subject ..you jolly well know wat the answer is 
i am a vegetarian ..by the way  ..  i was giving a way out for those that absolutely needed to eat meat  ..
your name is nice  btw  :)



  Vaidyanathan Pushpagiri posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
jaijui:

Very recently I wrote a blog on a Lobster Thermidor recipe.  You can read it here: 

http://rajaputhran.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/01/lobster-thermidor.htm

I trust, you know how a lobster looks like.  If not here is a specimen. 



I am a pure vegetarian.  But for years I have suffered pangs of hurt and humiliation, when the chefs on our ships  used to cook this sea crustacean on their way from Colombo to Chennai.  Mind you they are put in an auto-clave, alive and allowed to die a painful death, because th chef says they have no brains and consequently they do not feel any Pain? 

That bastard expected me to believe him. 

Whether a life is big or small, a killing is a killing and there are no extenuating circumstances. IMHO.   

Regards. 
Rajaputhran
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  jaijui posted Re:Eating Beef on 7 mnths ago
i know Raja ...i know  :))