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bangalore blasts

started by Aftaab 1 month ago
3 serial blasts in bangalore - 1 dead, 15 injured

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jul/25beng.htm

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  -sandilya. posted Re:bangalore blasts - the usual 2 groups on the CH on 1 month ago
By now there are 8 blasts.  It is clear that this is an organized effort by some group that wants to create panic in Bangalore.  The Central govt. just released info. that they "warned" both Karnataka and AP govts. ahead that Bangalore and Hyderabad are targets of terrorists.

Looks like the usuall two groups are formed on the CH - "p-secs" bringing in BJP & Modi into the discussion to trivialize the dastardly activity, and "communals" who blame the Muslim community.  Surprising that Carvaka and Merlot, the brilliant experts on everything, are not here yet.  I'm sure they will come soon and question if there is "real evidence" that Ghazni and Ghori ever attacked and plundered India or was it a myth created by "communals"!

If a family sits and watches TV while the house is being robbed and women raped, it seserves all the punishment it gets!

Hey FF, Why don't you go and engage in a duel with Modi and get it over with? 
  carvaka posted Re:bangalore blasts - the usual 2 groups on the CH on 1 month ago
> Surprising that Carvaka and Merlot, the brilliant experts on everything, are not here yet.  I'm sure they will come soon and question if there is "real evidence" that Ghazni and Ghori ever attacked and plundered India or was it a myth created by "communals"!

It is touching to note that you miss me and begin wondering what I would say if I were here -- even if I am gone only for hours. Reminds me of the words spoken before a popular romantic Hindi song. 

  -sandilya. posted Re:bangalore blasts - the usual 2 groups on the CH on 1 month ago
Latest:  9 blasts, not 8!


  Uppili posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
It is unfortunate such blasts have occured at this economically critical juncture. It is easy to condemn one group or the other in a haste. But, the Bengaluru police and the BJP govt. should investigate thoroughly all angles and bring the culprits to book.  They should not discount the fact that it could be the handiwork of Hindu fundamentalists to vent anger at the loss of their recent Parliament vote.  What better place than Bengaluru, where their own govt and its agencies are well connected to execute such a grand operation. The fact that the casualty is minimal indicates that foreign terrorists can be ruled out and it is perhaps the act of a majority community.

 - Uppili espousing the fakular point of view.

Reality Check:  hellooooooooooooooo  it is friday and isn't it obvious ?

  tejasvee posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago

Hype stuff. On any given day 2 to 3 people die on Bengaluru roads in accidents. 

1 or 2 deaths in a number of 'serial' blasts is nothing. Let's not give much importance to these publicity hungry "match stick" blast masters.
  .|Sublime|. posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
people do die all the time, whether in accidents, natural causes or because of medical negligence. i am trying to figure out, how you can equate those deaths with deaths caused by a conscious, premeditated act of violence whose sole intention is death to further a cause? Even if it is one death, that is one life lost to a cause that should not be supported only because it has disregard for human life. You have to bring attention to this loss of life, not because you might risk bringing publicity to the blast masters but to energise forces to fight these terrorists.

I feel your apathy stems from the fact that as humans, make it Indians, we see so many lives getting wasted on a daily basis that one more does not make a big difference.
  Ponniyin Selvan posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
No. just last week naxalites killed 25 policemen and a week (or 2 weeks before) killed 30+ special officers..
That was just a one paragraph news in major dailies.

Now, because this is Bangalore and people killed were civilians it would add to the shock value and TV channels and newspapers (not counting the politicans / inept police officers) would have a field day.
  .|Sublime|. posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
As far as I know, the special officer massacre was a major news story. The elite police force had been giving a hard time to the naxalites. The police force was tricked with false intelligence, hence the massacre. This was a major story. But again daily variety naxalite related violence is no longer big news in Orissa and Andhra Pradesh.

Bomb blasts have become common now. I had called up Banglore to make sure things were ok with some folks and they were like yea it happened somewhere but not close to us. So now, to get the nation's attention, the perpetrators will have to design blasts on a massive scale to shock the public.
  -sandilya. posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
This is not a new thinking.  In Hyd., if there was some disturbance in Malakpet (Muslim area), people in the surrounding areas knew (ahead of time) which roads to take to go to work.  People were used to such things in the 1960's!

  Uppili posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
>> Bomb blasts have become common now. I had called up Banglore to make sure things were ok with some folks and they were like yea it happened somewhere but not close to us. So now, to get the nation's attention, the perpetrators will have to design blasts on a massive scale to shock the public.


:))))) EXACTLY the same words with someone I am online now..... yeah.. that road is far away and our place is just fine... Chalthe hai

  Propagandhi122 posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago

indians as a civilization are used to aggression. nothing will rile them up except if someone disconnects power during cricket matches.
  .|Sublime|. posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
immune and used to aggression of any magnitude. whether it is bomb blasts or whether it is honking on the streets. if you dare to keep a 1 bike distance (forget 2 car distance) with the vehicle in front, you can see the aggression in clear display. Drivers will be honking behind you as if this 1 bike distance is the reason for the traffic jam. But noone bothers. you can honk all you want, i will do what i want.

  Doofus_Maximus posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
or during Rajni movies.
  Propagandhi122 posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
oh that's the worst.




  tejasvee posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
PS and Sublime:
    What do these homegrown SIMI folks need? Media Publicity and feeling of fear among corporations/general public.

Just 6 weeks back, there was an analysis to see if Karnataka crackdown on SIMI (coinciding with BJP coming to power) worked or not.
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jun/09simi.htm?zcc=rl

No.. I am not being apathetic. I am just discarding this 'sensational' serial blasts news saying it's nothing more than a few bigger sized Deepavali crackers going off behind malls & famous places. If our media doesn't hype these, there won't be many such attempts.
  Doofus_Maximus posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
I feel the opposite... if they don't hype it up.. then they get emboldened..
  tejasvee posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
Different view point.

Care to elaborate?
  Doofus_Maximus posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
media hype puts some pressure on the police forces to round up these petty wanna be terrorists.

otherwise they all sleep on it and these bachuas get brazen..

alternatively, these blasts could also be diversionary for something big.. hope it is not that.

either way catching them is essential...
  tejasvee posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
>>media hype puts some pressure on the police forces to round up these petty wanna be terrorists

Doofus:
   Wasn't there barrels and barrels of papers worth of media hype given to Hindu Pandit ethnic cleansing from Jammu & Kashmir? What 'pressure' did that create on the local police?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_oSIQRF_AHM







  Vinod Gupte posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
i thought you had given up alcohol. my bad.

  Ponniyin Selvan posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
Yeah, I think this set of blasts is not for mass casualties. We could wait for that in a future release.


  denice _menace posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
disgusting! now bangalore is no more a safe place...kick all teh muslims out from DERE!

enough is enough COWARDS
  gyanputra posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
One needs to remove or kill sufficient number of suspects until muslims give up cowardly violence against civillians.
  gyanputra posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago

Friday, July 25, 2008

blasts in bangalore

 
jul 25th, 2008

this must be the sleeper cells celebrating the UPA victory in the parliament vote: a few more months of free rein for terrorists. no POTA to bother them.

of course the idea is also to create havoc in a BJP-run state.

the answer really is narendra modi and his style of no-nonsense rule which doesn't give mohammedans any special favors, but treats them as exactly as all other citizens: not superior in any way.
 
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 7/25/2008 05:38:00 AM 0 comments


  Amerasian posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
Huh?! By your "logic & reasoning", all the hindus who injured and killed hundreds sikhs in the aftermath of I.Gandhi's assasination should have been kicked out of Delhi. And how about all those hindus, who went on killing rampage in Gujarat? they should have been kicked out of Gujjurat? 

If you had said, "kick all radical muslims who incite violence out", then I would have said amen to that.

  flimflam2 posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
kick all teh muslims out from DERE! -- denice_menace.

i read the rediff.com report. there's no indication in it that the blasts were set off by muslims. if they were, on what basis would we "kick all the muslims out from DERE?" 

do you clamour to kick all the hindus out from 'dere' whenever a hindu commits a crime? ah, you say that india belongs to the hindus? you're wrong! india belongs to the natives of india, regardless of religion. you didn't know that? in that case, shut up and learn more about your country before you have emotional outbursts at a public forum.

flimflam
  Uppili posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
Well said for the prompt balanced response.

I hope I see you whenever they do arrest the culprits - whoever it is  - and also in Kashmir whenever hindus are butched?

How come you seem to go on sudden leave whenever such things happen ?  just curious...not that we are suprised...
  tejasvee posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
>>How come you seem to go on sudden leave whenever such things happen ? 

Don't know much about FF, but all sickulars take mass leave when you talk about Hindus being targeted.



  zareen2 posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
why muslim yaar wat happen think twice b4 u write in board as all gonna read ok think mature 
as ven u ppl are good i mean very good in taking kicks all have good as a ss   hahahahahahahahahahaah
dil par na le take it on butt

  muchocricket posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
while you're at it, kick the other cowards too (recently elected Govt. too).. before Ram Janmabhoomi tamasha, we didn't hear much of bomb blasts, now it has become norm all over India.
  Uppili posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
Hey....tell that to all these idiots...

say hello to your Master ....the Chief Mullah of CH and the main pointman for the Traitor cell or has he gone to Peshawar to get further instructions ?
  muchocricket posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
my master     very funny saar...


  Truthbetold3 posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
Mucho,

Are you trying to rewrite history?  Jehadis did not start their world wide terror campaign because of Ram Jamnabhoomi.  The whole of Kashmir was terrorized much before Babri majid incident.  Kashmiri pandits were forced out from their lands before Ram jamnabhoomi issue.

One incident does not give any one permission to start another terrorist act.

While DM's comment was senseless, your comment is equally senseless.

This is a reckless act of voilence that should be condemned without reservation and giving execuses. He just survives there because he does the bidding of Sonia in Bofors and manipulating CBI.



Most of the responsibility lies with center for failing to coordinate a national govt(yes NDA has also failed in that respect). 

Shiv Raj Patil is the most ineffective Home Minister in the history of Modern India.
  Aftaab posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
>Shiv Raj Patil is the most ineffective Home Minister in the history of Modern India.

totally agree, shame on him and congress for not being able to control this violence... 
  Aftaab posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
Following are the details of other blasts last couple of years -

  • April 14, 2006: Twin blasts took place in Delhi's Jama Masjid injuring at least 13 people on Friday evening at around 1730 hrs IST.
  • September 8, 2006: 31 killed, 297 injured in Friday's twin bomb blast in Malegaon.
  • November 23, 2007: Multiple blasts in Faizabad, Varanasi, Lucknow within five minutes of each other killing at least 12 people in Uttar Pradesh.
  • May 18, 2007: Eleven people were killed and more than 50 others injured in a bomb explosion inside Mecca Mosque located near the historic Charminar in Hyderabad.
god knows what happened to POTA!
Intelligence agencies have been proved ineffective, used by govt for other purposes than monitoring terrorist activities.


  muchocricket posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
> The whole of Kashmir was terrorized much before Babri majid incident.  Kashmiri pandits were forced out from their lands before Ram jamnabhoomi issue.

I know that.. but that was a separatist movement like Khalistan.

> While DM's comment was senseless, your comment is equally senseless.

OK.

> This is a reckless act of voilence that should be condemned without reservation and giving execuses

Yes, it should be, and I'm not giving any excuses rather making BJP along with SIMI and whatever other jehadi  groups equally responsible for current situation in India.
  rawemotions posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
> The whole of Kashmir was terrorized much before Babri majid incident.  Kashmiri pandits were forced out from their lands before Ram jamnabhoomi issue.

>>I know that.. but that was a separatist movement like Khalistan.
Exactly how does commiting Genocide on Kashmiri Minorities (Sikhs and Hindus) help Kashmiri separatism ?
Justifying killing of minorities, because they do not agree to denigration and humiliation in the name of  the politico-religious law called Shariat,  does not make sense at all. It is very painful to note, that educated people like you supporting it. Even Omar Abdullah has realized it.

When outbound violence is committed without any inbound violence , a moral line is crossed. Then there are three parties to blame, that is the butchers who were responsible for it,the think thanks who planned it  and their (im)moral  supporters. If you start giving justification to it, you become one of the (im)moral supporters.


By your logic, Sikhs & Hindus & Buddhists have the  right to keep on committing violence for centuries to  take revenge for the Genocide committed on them for 1200 years. I do not think that is going to help anything.

Regarding persons responsible, Raman wrote a very good note.

www.rediff.com/news/2008/jul/25guest3.htm

Regarding the blasts, two things need to happen
a) Muslim community should be a partner to prevent future blasts and should come out against it. For example
   contribute to actionable intelligence to take out sleeper cells. In every mohallah, the guys know who is new and
   who  is not.
b) Karnataka Government should immediately prevent anti-socials from exploiting the situation to harm minorities.
    I hope Yediurappa takes a leaf from Raje government in this regard, who did an excellent job after Jaipur Blasts

  Truthbetold3 posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago

Mucho,

It is nonsensical to add BJP into this blasts. 

If BJP needs to be added into equation,  then tell me how many terrorists actys would be equal revenge to Ram Janmabhoomi? Does that give Jehadis a permanent license to harm totally unrelated people? 

It is this kind of linkage that allows the psuedo seculars to provide cover to jehadists.

At some levels all events in the world are connected. When incident happens,  you should focus on the criminals who perpetuated the crime. If you bring out the execuses why they did, that provides a cover for those acts.

 

 
  muchocricket posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
>> It is this kind of linkage that allows the psuedo seculars to provide cover to jehadists.

Well, I'm not trying to cover anyone nor making any excuses, at the risk of repeating myself, let me say this again. I rather see BJP along with SIMI bite the dust, which would only server India better (IMHO)
  Propagandhi122 posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
yeah..then our faithful congress and leftist parties can parcel out the country and give parts of it away after juicing it dry. we can then stay at the same poverty level for the next 100 yrs with 100 separatist movements and endemic corruption. that would be nice and would serve india very well.
  muchocricket posted Re:bangalore blasts on 1 month ago
I understand the sarcasm....    but aren't we mixing apples and oranges? when it comes to corruption, you can hardly separate them, you can't say one party is less corrupt than the other.