NRI admissions into medical schools in India.

started by -sandilya. 2 mnths ago
Does anyone have first hand info. on admission of NRI students into the MBBS program in India?  I notice that there are several private colleges in AP (and apparently, even the govt. colleges have a quota for NRI students)!  For example, in Hyd. there is this Deccan college of Medical Sciences and near Vijayawada, NRI Medical College.  I presume these places charge a lot of money for NRI students.  Is it worth sending kids there for studying medicine (if they want to settle in India and not come back after completing studies)?

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  Kris posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
There seem to be some kind of a separate track for foreign nationals of Indian origin. Cheaper than the US med schools. Degree of acceptance/ hurdles in the US may be an issue to consider. If they want to stay in India, there may be other considerations like being able to get adjusted to the environment etc. Depends on the individual, I guess.
  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
Kris when is the flight to India? How long are you going for? Any special occassion or aiseich?


  Truthbetold3 posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago

Sandilya,

There is too much negative criticism in the posts below. I do not know how much of it is real knowledge and how much of it is anger on medical profession.

I know kids who went to medical colleges in south/central america and  also kids who graduated from private medical colleges in India.  All most all of them are doing well and some of them are highly successful.   I am not betting that any of them will win a nobel Prize in Medicine or find the cure to cancer but they are providing medical services to many of you.  

You have to judge if the kid is going to make use of the opportunity or not. If yes,  take a chance.  If you have money, and Kid can do a decent job, I say go for it.  Do not listen to the negative non sense.   If you worry about all the things that can go wrong, I can assure you that they will go wrong.  Life supports those who take risks and those who act .


  Nevada posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
One kid I know is going to join a medical college in Madras(through donation/recommendation). The college is reputed to be strict. I don't know the name of the college. Maybe someone from Madras knows the name.
  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
wait for VP sir to come and post a 3 page article on the college inclusive of pictures. he is the most helpful soul around when someone asks for info.

how r u doing Nevada?
  Nevada posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
I am doing fine, thanks for asking. Hope things are going well for you.
  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
I am doing well too Nevada. Cant wait to go home and paint the fence. Lately, mental work bores me.




  Uppili posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
There are several decent med schools in India - other than the established top ones. The going rate is understood to be 25 laks donation and 2 to 5 laks per year fees. I think they made it into a 7 yr program again starting this year (check this).

Most NRIs will send their kids if they cannot get admission to any US schools. Unfortunately, such kids are almost always not great ly motivated and not informed enough about medicine or healthcare field. Their only view of the field is that they can make a lot of money.

And here is the catch :  If the kid ends up resettling back in India - that is not a great thing either.Bcz with so many MDs around who wants to go to a MBBS ? They have to do 3 yr s of MD. Even then, the hospitals are following a 2-tier system. Local MDs get a much  much lower salary, and the phoren ones (including the Indian MBBS docs in US) with experience get a very fat salaries or a great patient clientele (like Dr. Dunkin Donut). In my view, if the kid can get into ANY US med school, the options are plenty and the kid calls the shots here, there or anywhere. Of course, if this does not work out, then there is always Dr. MGR medical College.
  -sandilya. posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
I agree.  I have seen people in towns going only to those with PG degrees.  In Hyd. I have seen one MBBS in private practice who doen't get many patients (he is trying to move to the West).  In rural areas, people still go to MBBSwallahs but they don't always pay.


  Maria S posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago



Does anyone have first hand info. on admission of NRI students into the MBBS program in India?

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Sure, know quite a lot about it:)  

Most of the private medical colleges (in South India- especially TN and AP) charge fees- anywhere between 75-125 lakhs for NRI students (this excludes most other expenses). 

Personally speaking..I would not spend that much money and send children to medical colleges in India...unless the child has tremendous natural interest- without any parental pressure(has academically done everything possible- to prove that they are ready for it and will single-mindedly work for it- which is rare).

M

  sara Boji posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
Rs. 125 lakhs is a little more than $200,000.

For a third rate medical program?
  peacegazer posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
the ones in AP are state of the art programs.  the carribean ones are of questionable repute.
  Truthbetold3 posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
There are many carribean ones that are reputable and are running for more than 25 years. In many of them students actually come to US for medical work after two years in those countries.  You need to do your research but do not make sweeping statements.
  peacegazer posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
oooo research!  how dare i posteth something w/o  googling ...

agar paisa phenk na hain tho desh mein kyo na phenke..good for india.  why feed some obscure carribean country...
  Truthbetold3 posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
Peace,

Many reasons.  Some carribean colleges require only two years of residential classes. then they come to US fro the rest of the program. Since most of the training is in US, these programs are much more easily accepted in US.   As I said some of them are in business for more than 25 years.

One of them is actually involved in 1980s US invasion of Grenada.  US gave some execuse about safety of these kids as an excuse to go in and prevent some pro leftist govt from taking over.
  peacegazer posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
tikh hain meri maa.  tu jaa carribean.  i will visit on vacation! 





  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
sara - 125 lacs is well over $300K.


  -sandilya. posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
75-125 lakhs?  That must be for the whole program I guess.  I agree - students should get into medicine only if they are suited for that kind of work. 
  Maria S posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago

75-125 lakhs?  That must be for the whole program I guess. 

Yes, it is for the 4-5 year program.

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"Then there are tons of no-name med colleges run by all & Sundry trusts where several seats go vacant. It is fairly easy to get those for 25 Lakhs."


Where in India, Mr.U?!

Can you name a few?

M







  Uppili posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
75 - 100 lakhs to established PVT med schools - like the Manipal, Ramachandra, PSG etc..Then there are tons of no-name med colleges run by all & Sundry trusts where several seats go vacant. It is fairly easy to get those for 25 Lakhs. Imagine the kind of guy who ends up in those kinds of colleges... will make excellent butchers - or, I might be wrong.
  JBF posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
True

I know a guy,who got trained in one such school and he expirimented on poor people...


  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
75-125 lakhs in 2008?

I am sending my kids to you Ms Mariposita to get educated, the real way :))

BTW - what are the top medical schools in US? And the cost?
  Maria S posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago

I am sending my kids to you Ms Mariposita to get educated, the real way :))

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Sure Mr. Shunnya:)

You never know...they may be somewhere I may show up! 

Looks like you found the link already to the top medical schools in the US and other info.
Frankly, the practice of medicine has changed/is changing...it is more like a business and is quite stressful in different ways (not as glamorous as it looks)..There are many doctors who are into multi-specialties..and into other ventures, besides medicine.

*As I said before, unless a person is really interested in becoming a doctor...not sure, if it is worth all the effort/financial investments...there are many ways one can make money (if that is all, one is concerned about). I often point to friends, one owns a chain of beauty salons- who made almost a million last year, another who has a lawn-maintainence/landscaping company..who made 500,000 last year..and of course ae Patel friend ( who was a Physician) who own almost all the motels/hotels..in a neighboring city now!...Doing very well:)

M

  sara Boji posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
"and of course ae Patel friend ( who was a Physician) who own almost all the motels/hotels..in a neighboring city now!...Doing very well:)"


==> Patel left medical profession and became a motel owner.

I guess he did not care about prestige.
  Propagandhi122 posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
he's not a madras iyer originally from upper perumbudur ward#2. what prestige is he going to have?


  Truthbetold3 posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
Maria,

If a kid is entrepreneurial, he/she would probably does not need our advice.

Take a ratio between people making 500k and people entering landscaping business, it will be a small number.

Take a ratio between medical students becoming successful doctors vs students entering medical profession, it will close to 0.9 to 1.  That is why parents encourage kids to aim for those professional courses. 

 
  Maria S posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
If a kid is entrepreneurial, he/she would probably does not need our advice.


*But, I don't think most Indian parents will support their child who does anything that "unconventional" and takes risks.




Take a ratio between people making 500k and people entering landscaping business, it will be a small number.Take a ratio between medical students becoming successful doctors vs students entering medical profession, it will close to 0.9 to 1.  That is why parents encourage kids to aim for those professional courses.  


Sure, I agree...I was just giving some examples of how people can succeed in whatever they do and make a lot of money. It would be great if children meet all the expectations of parents...when it does not happen, I hope parents are not so tough on children and allow them more choices (that was what I was trying to say).

M

  Truthbetold3 posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
maria,

I am for each kid picking his/her options in life.  market forces,  societal feedback plays a role in real life.  Parents do certain things (some times because of stupidity) with the intention of giving their children a better life.  Some kids can take it. others can't. there is no magic formula that is yet understood that can tell parents exactly what the recipe is for motiving children with the right incentives.   It is a trial and error for each kid.  

Those parents who can afford and send kids to Private colleges, I say go for it. It is their money.






  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
As a parent, one feels that their kids should go to college - to their area of liking - medicine or not - "IF" they know what they like by that time. A Big IF, since there's always a liking of not going to college at all.
  Maria S posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
As a parent, one feels that their kids should go to college - to their area of liking - medicine or not - "IF" they know what they like by that time. A Big IF, since there's always a liking of not going to college at all.

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True...there are many children/students who do not really know what they want to do (in regards to career choices).
I am sure most parents love the idea of their child becoming a doctor...and it is still a wonderful profession and rewarding in many ways.

*There is nothing wrong in parents influencing their children (in fact, I think it is the responsibility of parents)..to emphasize the importance of education (in general) and nudge them...towards a few choices(I would think for Indian parents, medicine is in the top three)...But, this has to start 'early"...and by the time the student is in the last years of high school...they are leaning towards something- a certain field..

*Within the medical field...there are far more options now, more than ever before to make good money and also help people (if one cannot get into medical school).

M
  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
To think of it - I just want them to be happy. while I seek happiness and peace of mind myself :))

My mom claims that all of her kids are "running after money". I hope I dont get the same feeling, but at the same time I dont want them to feel the need of money ever. Just like I never did so far in my lifetime.
  MaxEntropy_Man posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
"while I seek happiness and peace of mind myself :))"

>>> but i thought you seek the tooth! be decisive, don't waffle. are you seeking the tooth or happiness?

*random questions*

  Maria S posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago


My mom claims that all of her kids are "running after money". I hope I dont get the same feeling, but at the same time I dont want them to feel the need of money ever. Just like I never did so far in my lifetime.

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Your Mom's attitude is actually refreshing...unfortunately for many parents...their children can "do better" (in everything, especially making more money:)

I can identify with not having the "need" to have more than I have..while I am grateful for it...I sometimes wonder if that contributed/contributes to not aiming to make/wanting more and more....people who have experienced that need..seem to pursue making more and more with so much more vigor and force (obviously, there are always exceptions).

However, unless we live in other people's shoes...it is difficult to judge/understand;)

M

  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago

Well - I think she is right. Generation after generation is turning to capitalism and materialism.I told her - Look mom, I am in US. What else do I have to do except to earn and spend here? :)

It does not take even 2 months to realize that one was happier with 21" TV than he is with 52" HDTV.

Where is the catch?

 

  Uppili posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
>> Where is the catch?

When unlimited materialism is associated with success and happiness, they will be limited by the very same materialism.

Unfortunately, most of the people do just that and hence most of the people are ever unhappy.
  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
i dont think mothers have suddenly started bearing materialistic infants.

to think of it - its the "GAP" between whats possible and whats achieved that causes dis-satisfaction in a human. 

For example - if all I had was a radio - I would be happy with a radio. If I *know* that iPhone is out there, Wii is out there etc etc etc etc etc, then expectations change.

In 1908, when mankind only had 144 miles of paved road, to 2008 - the Q has changed to - "Its possible, do you have the money to get it?".

This is how recent generations are growing.
  Uppili posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
>> If I *know* that iPhone is out there, Wii is out there etc etc etc etc etc, then expectations change.

Exactly... then you will be a unhappy man.  

Happiness comes when you achieve a goal. Accumulating material and fancier objects is not achieving, it is buying.

And we all know that true happiness and true love can never be bought. 
  nihaan posted Re:NRI admissions into medical schools in India. on 2 mnths ago
(-:

I have gone a step further in my research Upps. Once I questioned thus with conviction -

"Is it possible to find Truth in other, but not in self?"

Now I question that question. i.e. Where lies the dependency of one human to another in achieving Truth?










  nihaan posted Top Medical Schools in US on 2 mnths ago
Tried to get an idea myself - They charge between $25K - $40K per year. For 5 years after UG?

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/mdr/search


  JBF posted Re:Top Medical Schools in US on 2 mnths ago
Make more money..

i am not stupid be depressed,i have no money..my children will "fook" dope if i do not make money.

period..oh ya..