Kareena
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Many europeans, middle eastern people when they invaded India settled in North Western parts of the country. Many punjabis have Greek and middle eastern genes. So they look different. Same is the case with Mangalore and Koorg.
Telusu ley voye amma!
Do you have any interesting tidbits about the people of Mangalore.....ma chinnana ki evi anni interest and ayana chuttalu kosam vethakadam modhalapettaru and we found mevu aa vuriki dheggaralo ninchi vacchemu ani...exact ga cheppalenu, kaani na akari peru aa pradesam ninche. ma pooja vidhanam and madi acharyalu koncham veruga untayi...one of my muththathayyas illarikamu vacchi andhra lo undipoyaru.
Do you have any interesting tidbits about the people of Mangalore.....ma chinnana ki evi anni interest and ayana chuttalu kosam vethakadam modhalapettaru and we found mevu aa vuriki dheggaralo ninchi vacchemu ani...exact ga cheppalenu, kaani na akari peru aa pradesam ninche. ma pooja vidhanam and madi acharyalu koncham veruga untayi...one of my muththathayyas illarikamu vacchi andhra lo undipoyaru.
There is no one "Indian" look. First you have to define what is an 'indian" look and then claim Kareena Kapoor is not Indian.
People from North east look competely different from people in the north west and it is the same case with people from northern most Kashmir and people from the south. Even in the same region there is quite a bit of diversity. I think you being in the biology field (??) should know more than me about the genetic diversities.
Generally, it has become some sort of a legend that someone represented in Bollywood represents the Indian face(or North Indian). Bollywood (atleast the actors / actoreses), I think are dominated by Punjabis / Pathans (upper class Muslims) who have their origins from the North western parts of India. In that sense Kareena Kapoor is an indian.
If you formed your opinion of an Indian face based on some other factors it might seem odd to you.
It has been established that Kareena is of Persian origin, and 100% Hindu. She's currently dating a person of Indian and Persian origin, Siaf Khan - 50% Indian, 100% Muslim.
The movie industry goes by the basic rule when it comes to heroines (at least)
WHITE SKIN SELLS.
It is aimed at the basic racist tendencies of the Indians.
WHITE SKIN SELLS.
It is aimed at the basic racist tendencies of the Indians.
finding white features/skin attractive isnt racist. thinking they're inherently superior to others is. ofcourse lots of indians (and plenty other nonwhites across the world) think the latter.
Indians are attracted to whatever they think are superior.... White skin attracts Indians on its own turf - but that is invariably mentioned along with success, greta job, family implies that is also a factor in determining one's superiority.
The thing I hate is whenever people enquire about a newborn.. boy or gal, then invariably the next question - what color is it ?
The thing I hate is whenever people enquire about a newborn.. boy or gal, then invariably the next question - what color is it ?
I know one fellow who went to IIT and now has an MBA and a Ph.D from here in the United States.
His wife gave birth to a girl.
A friend called the father and inquired about the baby.
The idiot replied "She is not fair".
His wife gave birth to a girl.
A friend called the father and inquired about the baby.
The idiot replied "She is not fair".
>>A friend called the father and inquired about the baby.
>> The idiot replied "She is not fair".
See he is smart. He answered the friend's question and also his very likely next question. They have another subtle way of asking the same color question. Is she like the husband or the wife ? or Who does she resemble ? But, sooner or later the color issue will come up.
>> The idiot replied "She is not fair".
See he is smart. He answered the friend's question and also his very likely next question. They have another subtle way of asking the same color question. Is she like the husband or the wife ? or Who does she resemble ? But, sooner or later the color issue will come up.
What do you think about this dude's origin?
He dyed his hair. There are fair people in the south too, but like I said earlier, they have a thickish skin color. It's not the clear, dewy complexion of Persians.
Well, my Iranian colleague has similar thickish skin color.
He must have Hindustani roots. Is anything wrong with that?
Now what is Hindustani? Rasmun confused the heck out of me with his explanation of term "Hindustani"
Ask Rashmun. I'm only just beginning to discover that there are Persians in India....and all the north indian women got upset. You'll have to explain that.
Mahesh Babu and his ethnicity doesn't bother me.
The idea that we are all alike is wrong, we aren't. You'd like me to believe that that pasty-skinned iranian colleague of yours and mahesh babu are both the same thing. It's beacuse you guys have difficulty understanding and accepting differences, so you pretend that everybody is the same.
Kareena is interesting, just like Lucy. I'm not the one who talked about her father, mother, sister, grandfather.. I never said they were from an indecent family.
I'll have to learn some Persian, for your sake at least.
Mahesh Babu and his ethnicity doesn't bother me.
The idea that we are all alike is wrong, we aren't. You'd like me to believe that that pasty-skinned iranian colleague of yours and mahesh babu are both the same thing. It's beacuse you guys have difficulty understanding and accepting differences, so you pretend that everybody is the same.
Kareena is interesting, just like Lucy. I'm not the one who talked about her father, mother, sister, grandfather.. I never said they were from an indecent family.
I'll have to learn some Persian, for your sake at least.
>> I'm only just beginning to discover that there are Persians in India..
So when will you be coming around to discover other migrants to India ? The Afgans, Mongols, Africans, Chinese, Arabs, Nepalis, and the Pakisatanis and Beggardeshis (do you also welcome them into India?)
>> Ask Rashmun.
Say no more... Good luck...
So when will you be coming around to discover other migrants to India ? The Afgans, Mongols, Africans, Chinese, Arabs, Nepalis, and the Pakisatanis and Beggardeshis (do you also welcome them into India?)
>> Ask Rashmun.
Say no more... Good luck...
> Ask Rashmun
What's your definition of Hindustani?
>> I'm only just beginning to discover that there are Persians in India
I'm glad you're, but as they say A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, so i suggest you to stop posting this sorta nonsense until you learn about that in detail. You might have a different perspective when you learn more.
>> Mahesh Babu and his ethnicity doesn't bother me.
Why not? because he is a Telugu?
> It's beacuse you guys have difficulty understanding and accepting differences
Nope, because we don't fall into Aryan/Dravidian trap.
>> I'll have to learn some Persian, for your sake at least.
Whatever that means!!
What's your definition of Hindustani?
>> I'm only just beginning to discover that there are Persians in India
I'm glad you're, but as they say A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, so i suggest you to stop posting this sorta nonsense until you learn about that in detail. You might have a different perspective when you learn more.
>> Mahesh Babu and his ethnicity doesn't bother me.
Why not? because he is a Telugu?
> It's beacuse you guys have difficulty understanding and accepting differences
Nope, because we don't fall into Aryan/Dravidian trap.
>> I'll have to learn some Persian, for your sake at least.
Whatever that means!!
You're going to have to tell me why the north indian women on Sulekha who don't have an ounce of persian blood in them got upset after telling me that Kareena was Persian. That was really weird.
Kareena's biography and Queen Bee and RS-K all stated that she is of Persian origin. I did not and will not make fun of Persians. I'm glad all these people from Persia made a home in India. I welcome them. I'm happy for them. I hope they will uphold India's liberal and secular values.
If Mahes Babu came with the Persians, I welcome him too!
I also welcome the people of Balochistan, Sindh, and other developing places to India. Of course India is no America or UK, we missed the Industrial revolution and that was embarassing, but the people of Balochistan and Afghanistan missed evolution. This I have to say based on some BBC clips and satellite pictures of those regions of the earth. I'm glad some of them made it across to India. I wish they wouldn't try to confuse the native Indians into believing that they are also Persians. They simply are not. The Persians were a highly cultured people like the Bengalis. They were forced to convert to Islam for socioeconomic reasons but they retained their culture and language. The Persians make Islam look bearable and even proud. The Persians were good for Islam. The people who lived in the terrain between India and Persia were and are exactly like that terrain. Some of them moved to India. I think we know who.
Nevertheless, I welcome them too. I am in America now, and I've met people who continue to identify themselves as Polish or Irish or German or French or Telugu. It's okay to be Pashtun.
Kareena's biography and Queen Bee and RS-K all stated that she is of Persian origin. I did not and will not make fun of Persians. I'm glad all these people from Persia made a home in India. I welcome them. I'm happy for them. I hope they will uphold India's liberal and secular values.
If Mahes Babu came with the Persians, I welcome him too!
I also welcome the people of Balochistan, Sindh, and other developing places to India. Of course India is no America or UK, we missed the Industrial revolution and that was embarassing, but the people of Balochistan and Afghanistan missed evolution. This I have to say based on some BBC clips and satellite pictures of those regions of the earth. I'm glad some of them made it across to India. I wish they wouldn't try to confuse the native Indians into believing that they are also Persians. They simply are not. The Persians were a highly cultured people like the Bengalis. They were forced to convert to Islam for socioeconomic reasons but they retained their culture and language. The Persians make Islam look bearable and even proud. The Persians were good for Islam. The people who lived in the terrain between India and Persia were and are exactly like that terrain. Some of them moved to India. I think we know who.
Nevertheless, I welcome them too. I am in America now, and I've met people who continue to identify themselves as Polish or Irish or German or French or Telugu. It's okay to be Pashtun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prithviraj_Kapoor
is the wiki page for her great grandfather. He was punjabi hindu and an Indian. If there family or members of there family moved to that regios it was several hundred years ago and not recent. Her great grandfathers family has then intermarried with several sindhis. The way she looks is really not that unusual for someone who is part sindhi or part punjabi.
No her name is not of indian origin but people can call there children that which they want to and an indian does not have to have an indian name.
Frankly yours is the most idiotic post I have seen in a long while. There is not one look for an indian.
is the wiki page for her great grandfather. He was punjabi hindu and an Indian. If there family or members of there family moved to that regios it was several hundred years ago and not recent. Her great grandfathers family has then intermarried with several sindhis. The way she looks is really not that unusual for someone who is part sindhi or part punjabi.
No her name is not of indian origin but people can call there children that which they want to and an indian does not have to have an indian name.
Frankly yours is the most idiotic post I have seen in a long while. There is not one look for an indian.
I'm sorry that you won't allow me to reflect on India's secular and liberal traditions which have resulted in this immense racial and cultural and religious diversity. The Zorastrians and other Persians, the Jews, the Pashtuns, Balochis, Sindhis, Panjabis, Sindhis, and some Chinese and Tibetan people really benefitted from this. Most of them thrived in India.
I welcome them.
I hope they continue to thrive in India. I hope they prove to be worthy stewards of India's legacy. It's all in the Pashtos hands now.
I welcome them.
I hope they continue to thrive in India. I hope they prove to be worthy stewards of India's legacy. It's all in the Pashtos hands now.
"I welcome them."
If you wanted to write all this, why didn't you open a post with the message to that effect? Why start an innocuous looking thread and pick the Kapoor family to post your agenda? You have no interest in knowing Kareena's ethnicity. You just wanted to write all this crap.
I didn't say anything new here that I didn't say in the four lines of my opening post. Tell me what part of it is crap.
And what the heck? I'm not pickingon some Kapoor family! I have no idea who they are, I've never met them, and have nothing against them. What is so wrong about discussing a person's ethnicity? And why are North INdians getting all up in arms for their sake. She's just one of a billion!
BTW, Pravalika sounds like a female name. But your profile says you are a Male. No. No need to answer.
You didn't 'pick on' the kapoor family. You picked 'them' to post what you wanted to say in the first place. And you know what it is, so lets not pretend and repeat here. I will do a Maria here, and say that I am extremely busy today, and may not have the time to post further.
Here is a Madrasi Pathan for you. Enjoy!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bX4JcT4xaek
Well, I already mentioned that Sridevi had to undergo cosmetic procedures to please Balochi peasants.
I did not come here to talk about North Indians. The problem I've discovered is that North Indians think of themselves as Persians and Pashtos first, and they're offended when I suggest and YOU show evidence that Kareena is not of Indian origin. Why exactly this should offend North Indians, 90% of whom do not possess her dewy complexion or Persian roots is simply beyond me. I will chalk it up to lack of logic and make fun of you by pretending that you are indeed Persian.
I did not come here to talk about North Indians. The problem I've discovered is that North Indians think of themselves as Persians and Pashtos first, and they're offended when I suggest and YOU show evidence that Kareena is not of Indian origin. Why exactly this should offend North Indians, 90% of whom do not possess her dewy complexion or Persian roots is simply beyond me. I will chalk it up to lack of logic and make fun of you by pretending that you are indeed Persian.
karishma and kareena are hindus. They are 100% hindus.So they cant be of any other ethnic origin but from some northern parts of India.
Kareena after marriage to saif can become anything, islamic...so to say. But her roots are of an ethnic indian. ACtresses are like chameleons,(Sp, be pardoned).... make up makes them , unmakes them. So dont go by that. even Aish acn be made to look like Iranian. Even u can be made to look like an AFghan, with ur face int the hands of the right make up man. cheers
Kareena after marriage to saif can become anything, islamic...so to say. But her roots are of an ethnic indian. ACtresses are like chameleons,(Sp, be pardoned).... make up makes them , unmakes them. So dont go by that. even Aish acn be made to look like Iranian. Even u can be made to look like an AFghan, with ur face int the hands of the right make up man. cheers
**They are 100% Hindus but they aren't 100% Indian, just like Flim Flam is 100% Christian but not 100% Syrian.
**They are of not of some other ethnic origin; in the link provided by QB and in her own words, they are Sindhis = Persians. So these girls are basically Persians who came to India and converted to Hinduism.
Even u can be made to look like an AFghan, with ur face int the hands of the right make up man
** But without makeup, I look like a Telugu.
** But without makeup, I look like a Telugu.
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Interesting....the people from AP I have met/know....(with or without makeup) come in all shades, shapes and sizes (like most of the southern states...and some from the north).
Speaking of which, I met this man in a Conf a few days ago... thought he is from Colombia some South American Country...but he was from Guntur, AP- not making this up!)..and he thought I was from...well, not where I am from:) And your men are quite witty:) (ok, that's generalizing too!)
Frankly - I suppose it is all in the perceptions..but, am unable to guess..who is from where anymore!
M
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Interesting....the people from AP I have met/know....(with or without makeup) come in all shades, shapes and sizes (like most of the southern states...and some from the north).
Speaking of which, I met this man in a Conf a few days ago... thought he is from Colombia some South American Country...but he was from Guntur, AP- not making this up!)..and he thought I was from...well, not where I am from:) And your men are quite witty:) (ok, that's generalizing too!)
Frankly - I suppose it is all in the perceptions..but, am unable to guess..who is from where anymore!
M
> Interesting....the people from AP I have met/know....(with or without makeup) come in all shades, shapes and sizes (like most of the southern states...and some from the north).
CHers try to portray particular image of each group based on their own looks.
My friends & acquaintances from AP also come in all shades and shapes - my closest friend from Hyd. could more easily pass off as an Afghani/Irani than I ever could. Our neighbors from AP are darker but with extremely sharp facial features, with high cheekbones and beautiful shapely eyes.
And I'm surprised PN is surprised about Indian Persians. Incidentally, the few I've met are from Hyderabad & through my friends from Hyd. I was under the impression Hyd. like Delhi (?) was the hub of Indians of Persian ancestry.
CHers try to portray particular image of each group based on their own looks.
My friends & acquaintances from AP also come in all shades and shapes - my closest friend from Hyd. could more easily pass off as an Afghani/Irani than I ever could. Our neighbors from AP are darker but with extremely sharp facial features, with high cheekbones and beautiful shapely eyes.
And I'm surprised PN is surprised about Indian Persians. Incidentally, the few I've met are from Hyderabad & through my friends from Hyd. I was under the impression Hyd. like Delhi (?) was the hub of Indians of Persian ancestry.
We're not here to talk about the intoxicating beauty of the Andhras but of people of Persian ancestry settled in India. Two hundred years from now would you want your progeny to intermarry with the local american population, take up their religion, langugae and garb and pretend to have no indian or idolatry roots at all? I'm not one for conformity or amnesia.
Hyderabad was a Muslim state that became a part of Andhra Pradesh in the early 50s.
Hyderabad was a Muslim state that became a part of Andhra Pradesh in the early 50s.
You were talking about "looking indian" in a particular way.
Kareena kapoor seems to fail your test and you think "So these girls are basically Persians who came to India and converted to Hinduism.". You are interchanging nationality and religion a little too much. Many Persians (i.e. Iranians) moved to India after the Iranian Revolution and I doubt if any of them have converted to Hinduism. Hinduism predates the religion of Iranians i.e. Islam. Conversions have happened out of hinduism, not into Hinduism. Some north Indians moved to India from the Afghan region during the 19th and early 20th century - they were already Hindus though - nobody converted. And indian nationality was not carved out at that time.
If your point is that Kareena Kapoor was a persian muslim who converted into Hinduism - it's highly unlikely. If your point is that Kareena Kapoor's ancestral nationality was Persian (Iranian) - that's highly unlikely too. Since you are forming your assumptions from the color of her skin, several hindus from AP are as light as her and we now there's nothing Iranian or Islamic about them.
Kareena kapoor seems to fail your test and you think "So these girls are basically Persians who came to India and converted to Hinduism.". You are interchanging nationality and religion a little too much. Many Persians (i.e. Iranians) moved to India after the Iranian Revolution and I doubt if any of them have converted to Hinduism. Hinduism predates the religion of Iranians i.e. Islam. Conversions have happened out of hinduism, not into Hinduism. Some north Indians moved to India from the Afghan region during the 19th and early 20th century - they were already Hindus though - nobody converted. And indian nationality was not carved out at that time.
If your point is that Kareena Kapoor was a persian muslim who converted into Hinduism - it's highly unlikely. If your point is that Kareena Kapoor's ancestral nationality was Persian (Iranian) - that's highly unlikely too. Since you are forming your assumptions from the color of her skin, several hindus from AP are as light as her and we now there's nothing Iranian or Islamic about them.