Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ?

started by jaijui 7 mnths ago
Teenage  girls  ...wearing shorts in public ...are they  provocative  ..or  a display of freedom of style ... ?

Are they responsible for crimes against women  ?

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  Job less fella posted Re:this is when I admire the fair nature of Islam. on 7 mnths ago
Well it depends on the girl in question.If the girl is over developed and her vitals are oozzingly inviting and is emiting too much estrogen then perhaps she should be kept inside ,clothed or nude it does not matter.

See this is when i like Islam.Islam is a very fair religion.It respects the male agression and that same time respects the feminie passiveness.Men are agressive and to label a man criminal just because he got an erection seeing a partially clad woman is ridiculous.It is the woman's job to protect herself by covering herself properly.A partially covered woman commits a crime of "khulwa" according to Islam,thereby triggering the male hormones amongst the men in her surroundings and should be equally charged.Islam never says to rape and attack women,but in a case where the woman in question was the reason behind the provocation she should be punished accordingly along with the involved men.

It  should be a crime to only blame the man if the woman was being provocative.I mean why only men  should control their desires?A man has a right to be a man and the woman has a right to be a woman.

darbar barkhast.
JBF
  vellakaran posted Re:this is when I admire the fair nature of Islam. on 7 mnths ago
I disagree with Job less fella's statement that "Men are agressive and to label a man criminal just because he got an erection seeing a partially clad woman is ridiculous".

There are many nudist beaches in Europe, but men there do not get erections. If some (Muslim or Hindu?) man gets an erection there, people will laugh at him. Ok, it has nothing to do with
Islam.

Most temples in India display the nude devas and apsaras, but at that time the Indian men were not so much sex-driven: they could appreciate the beauty of the woman's body without getting aroused. 

But now it is the times of Kali Yuga, the darker age. Men get aroused even by looking at a piece of a saree.

  Persepolis posted Re:this is when I admire the fair nature of Islam. on 7 mnths ago
I know you're trying very very hard to provoke the women in here with a post like this.  You're not worth getting provoked by though.

  Job less fella posted Re:this is when I admire the fair nature of Islam. on 7 mnths ago


  Jauhari posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
it is ridiculous to think wearing shorts is responsilbe for crimes agains women.  Rape and assaults on women have nothing to do with sex.  Sexual crimes against women are crimes of violence.  These crimes are about control and hurting someone.
Most of the women raped are not dressed provocatively at all.  I admit teenage girls should dress more modestly and more age appropriate.  I don't think it is fair to blame them for crimes against women though.

  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Yes, we HAVE to wear short shorts. 

The only person responsible for the crime is the CRIMINAL, not the victim.
  Uppili posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
you are espousing your rights... but the rights also come with responsibility for self, safety, sense.

you do have a right to jump out of tall buildings. But do you exercise your right ?
  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
I don't want to hear your Mullah-like arguments.  Should women stop working in places where men go to work?  Should women not go swimming in pools where men are or go to the beach in a tankini?  Most normal men are not going to mind if a woman wears short shorts, as long as it isn't in the workplace, and most normal men are not going to stare at her or rape her.
  Uppili posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
>> Most normal men are not going to mind if a woman wears short shorts, as long as it isn't in the workplace,

Why do you think a workplace does not allow short-short-mini Shorts or skirts?
  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Why do you think a workplace doesn't allow men to come in shirtless?  I wouldn't mind seeing some shirtlesss men in my workplace and no, I wouldn' t rape them either.
  Uppili posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
oh smarty pants.... don't wiggle you by posing a Q4Q.  You know it is bcz it will divert the attention of men. It is anindirect way of corporations saying that they dont want to be held responsible for men getting diverted and commit crimes against women. That is, shorts are responsible in instigating the minds of men....:P

BTW, I am repeating my optimum *formula: Length of Shorts, ft  = (BMI /25)^3
*Patent pending
  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Hmmm, why didn't I think of that when I wore my strapless tube tops, and short shorts and skirts almost every weekend to the park and lake last summer.  Some sex-starved dog owner at the park or some sex-starved yatch owner at the lake didn't commit any crimes against me, thank God for that.

Why didn't I think of that when I wore my backless cholis and midriff bearing outfits to dandiya raas last Navratri?  Gujarati guys at Navratri didn't commit any crimes against me.

What about the time when I was in college and wearing somewhat transparent white cotton pants and tank tops to class everyday?  None of my sex-starved professors, TAs, or classmates raped me.

What about when I was a small kid and wore short shorts and skirts all the time?  I don't have any recollection of any child fondlers committing any crimes against me.
  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago

"Some sex-starved dog owner at the park or some sex-starved yatch owner at the lake didn't commit any crimes against me, thank God for that."

there were perhaps attractive dogs in that park. maybe you should thank them for taking the attention offa you.

"Why didn't I think of that when I wore my backless cholis and midriff bearing outfits to dandiya raas last Navratri?  Gujarati guys at Navratri didn't commit any crimes against me."

it's a well known fact that gujjus guys are a little..you know, effeminate.

"What about the time when I was in college and wearing somewhat transparent white cotton pants and tank tops to class everyday?  None of my sex-starved professors, TAs, or classmates raped me."

explains why you have the deep need to troll about hunweilo, the chinese waiter. lack of attention from males does that to a girl, I'm told.

if I had to state succintly, the bullet point of this presentation would be that you're probably butt ugly. that would be the 'take away' from this.

  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Alright.  I'm ugly and I was trolling about my Chinese ex.  I hope that really made you a happy man :-)
  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
it just makes me happy to set the record straight. you've been outed as an immature troll so many times, your credibility is less than zero. even less than phlegmy with his stories about diaphanous sarees and architects.
  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
We all know you're very mature.  Very mature.  Very.  Yes, uncle, you're so mature.
  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago

my maturity has been questioned several times, by my wife no less, so it's something I need to address. however, I've never trolled like an airheaded ditz in order to get attention.

  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Yes.  Please stop acting like some kind of financia whiz who works on Wall street or on the Chicago commodities exchange.  Please stop thinking that exposing the "truth" on an annonymous forum is your life's calling.  Please stop stalking women on here to entertain yourself, and PLEASE stop thinking someone is ugly or beautiful or whatever without having seen them ever.  Please stop abusing any and everyone and having an attitude when someone has said absolutely nothing to you because it makes you come across as someone without any life whatsoever.  Oh, and please start spending some time with your ugly wife for a change.  That'll make you a much more mature human being.
  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
big words from an ugly dog that doesnt get hit on, even when wearing shorts with your ass hanging out. are you still taking money from your dad to pay for tampons?
  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Yes, I'm an ugly dog or bitch whatever, and no one's ever hit on me and no one's hitting on me either.  Yes, I wear shorts with my ass hanging out.  Yes, I'm still taking money from your dad to pay for tampons.  I hope this makes you a very happy man.
  Job less fella posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago

  Propagandhi12 posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
I noticed you slipped that "your dad" in place of "my dad". I hope you arent implying that my 67 yr old dad is in the habit of supporting ugly 22 yr old junior accountant broads on the sly. and yes, the rest of your admission makes me happy.









  Job less fella posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Hmmm, why didn't I think of that when I wore my strapless tube tops, and short shorts and skirts almost every weekend to the park and lake last summer.  Some sex-starved dog owner at the park or some sex-starved yatch owner at the lake didn't commit any crimes against me, thank God for that.


What assures you so much that you are so the knock out type that men could not control their desires after seeing you?I feel that you are an overconfident woman with no touch with reality.Also it seems like you are so fond of using this word "crime".Please madam do not generalize crime differs accross many societies.You stand well protected in this american society and you will get old in this society.At that time when you are old,you will want men to touch you,grope you and slap your bottom but sadly no body would do it.So enjoy it when men still feel like luring at you.I told similar thing to my cousin sister t.She once was complaining that some guys just stare at her,that makes her uncomfortable.I told her down the road that  you will crib about men not looking at you and noticing your vitals.So the bottom line is that understand the male nature and accept it as the God's gift and enjoy life.Otherwise when you have flase teeth in your mouth at that time it will be too late to even think of trying the legendry kamsutra.

sab mithya hai sab mithya hai..
hari om.
  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Who said anything about men not being able to control their desires after seeing me?  Dude, your posts don't deserve a response, so have a great life and enjoy your miserable "job less" existence.
  Job less fella posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
hey now now !!

you are hurting me ...

plzzz don't







  Merlot Daruwala posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Your analogies are not valid. When a woman goes to work or to the swimming pool, she is just living her daily life without any reference to the other gender. 

Wearing short shorts on the other hand, is a deliberate action taken to invite male attention. No different from, say, walking around in a diaphanous negligee. You have every right to do that but when it invites the male attention that it is meant to, don't cry wolf.
  Currer Bell posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
"Wearing short shorts on the other hand, is a deliberate action taken to invite male attention."

Bottom line - women wearing burkas get raped. Young children get raped. Elderly women get raped. 

They're not wearing short shorts, they're not inviting anyone. 

It's only when a crime happens to a woman do they say she invited attention. A man gets mugged, does anyone say "he was flaunting his Rolex" "he was driving a BMW..he was asking for it."?



  Merlot Daruwala posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago

We seem to be talking about two separate things - my post was about male reactions to women in skimpy clothes which certainly does not include rape. As any shrink worth her salt would tell you, rape is hardly every about sex, it's almost always an exercise of power. 

To reiterate, if you're wearing short shorts in public, you should be ready for catcalls and stares from random males in whose field of vision you may pass. 

This is exactly what women dressing provocatively in public want. They're almost always seeking to shore up their sagging self-esteem - either consciously or subconsciously - from the male attention they get from their actions. Of course, at times, the response to other sagging items might be derisive but delusional women can be pardoned for thinking it's all appreciative.

It's a different matter what is provocative in one place might be passe in others, and is entirely driven by local culture. Short shorts meet the criteria in any society as of today. Five years from now, benumbed by endless images of skimpily dressed women, the bar (i.e. hemline) might get higher. At that point, we can all look back and say haha.

  Currer Bell posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago

"It's a different matter what is provocative in one place might be passe in others, and is entirely driven by local culture."

This is the key - you go to Puerto Rico and people will look at you if you're NOT wearing short and tight fitting clothes, which is the norm.  Also, I think by a certain age, women know what clothes get attention and whether they want it or not. 

But men have to know that catcalls, noises and whatever are just plain disgusting and not alluring at all - just quite disrespectful and more demeaning to themselves.

 

  Merlot Daruwala posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago

Unlike the woman wearing the short shorts, catcallers don't indulge in their behavior to allure or impress. They're just signalling their approval / derision at the body parts the woman has chosen to display. So your feedback to that community is quite wasted - they already know. Any hypocritical show of female disgust at that point would only add to their entertainment.

Well, since you agree that "by a certain age, women know what clothes get attention and whether they want it or not", it only follows that a woman who, armed with that knowledge, wears provocative clothes in public, should not then complain about the attentions.


  shakenbut!stirred posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
I agree...
Spending a week in Cannes or Nice can be a refreshing eye opener.  The first few minutes your eyes are spinning with all the topless women. But soon you get used to it and it feels totally normal.




  Silhouette posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago

So you are anti-veils and burquas *and* you are anti-shorts? In that case, please share the specific measurements allowed that are neither too oppressive for us nor too seductive for you.

  Merlot Daruwala posted Re: [Sillo] Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
First things first, nothing is too seductive for me, so feel free to wear what you like (or not). But be honest about it to yourself, that you are wearing it for the express purpose of seduction, and don't demonize me (and mankind) if it works and I'm seduced.

As for that attempt to bring in the burqa here, let me emulate FlimFlam and say haha! 

Just as they have complete license to wear short shorts (but need to be honest about their intent and be ready for the resultant male attention), women have every right to wear a burqa. 

However, I'm against forcing women (explicitly or through societal pressure) to wear the burqa and I'm also against special security exemptions for women wearing the burqa - they have to get in line and show their faces to Security just like anyone else. That, if you remember, was the crux of our last discussion on that topic.

  Uppili posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Did you see the formula that I developed for optimum Short-short measurement ?


  Persepolis posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago
Maybe she's going about her daily life in short shorts too.  She may not be going to the bars in short shorts.  Maybe she's going to the grocery store or the park or a coffee shop in short shorts.  You're assuming that she's try to invite male attention by wearing short shorts.
  Merlot Daruwala posted Re:Do girls HAVE to wear short shorts ? on 7 mnths ago

Yes I am. And you know I'm right.