Desis donating money to rich American universities
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It would be immature to quetion his patriotism , when his cause overrides those boundaries......As long as he is doing it for a meaningful cause...for education...its great !!!
..besides...are you questioning the rich Indians back in india on what are they doing to equal what Kapoor did for US Universities ????
Simply because more than social service the goal was ego gratification.
How can Nisha jee stay away when it's time to diss some one for doing what ever that persons wants to do with HIS money?
Indian donations to universities are quickly misused by corrupt people in all Indian establishments. Money donated to some accountable institution would be appropriate.
In late 1970s, a few old Italian immigrants left their wealth to the government of of USA as an act of gratitude for bringing them to USA after world war ii it really must be something heartfelt.
Kapoor probably just selected John as a easy to use first name for USA, all Chinese do that, without being excessively Christian.
In late 1970s, a few old Italian immigrants left their wealth to the government of of USA as an act of gratitude for bringing them to USA after world war ii it really must be something heartfelt.
Kapoor probably just selected John as a easy to use first name for USA, all Chinese do that, without being excessively Christian.
because this country has given him all the money he has. nothing wrong with giving it back to the same country. what would you do if adnan sami (a paki singing songs in bollywood) gave all his earnings to a school in pakistan? would'nt you start another thread writing exactly the opposite?
>> because this country has given him all the money he has.
That is a stretch. If one can stretch it further, one can say Wal-Mart owes all its money to China and Chinese prison labor as they made most of Wal-Mart's products.
While what he did was still commendable, for him and many others to give no credit to places and people who helped them start it all is purely myopic. Of course, we can and will find fault with everyone on any action.
That is a stretch. If one can stretch it further, one can say Wal-Mart owes all its money to China and Chinese prison labor as they made most of Wal-Mart's products.
While what he did was still commendable, for him and many others to give no credit to places and people who helped them start it all is purely myopic. Of course, we can and will find fault with everyone on any action.
is there anything in this world you dont complain abt? no good deed goes unpunished like they say. I'd love to see your 1040 to see how much you donate, if any.
Hey... everyone has his specialty.
besides... you are missing my point. I did not criticize his donating money to UB. I was commenting on his statement that it was UB (alone) that made him what he is today. That is a stretch...
BTW, I think I have not left out anything to complain about. In case, if you can think of any please let me know.. I would like to honor it as well.....;)
If I come out and make some flamboyant statement then you are always welcome to criticise me for giving, not giving, taking, etc....
Oh, I have not filed my 1040 for last year yet... thanks for brining it back to my attention.
besides... you are missing my point. I did not criticize his donating money to UB. I was commenting on his statement that it was UB (alone) that made him what he is today. That is a stretch...
BTW, I think I have not left out anything to complain about. In case, if you can think of any please let me know.. I would like to honor it as well.....;)
If I come out and make some flamboyant statement then you are always welcome to criticise me for giving, not giving, taking, etc....
Oh, I have not filed my 1040 for last year yet... thanks for brining it back to my attention.
because this country has given him all the money he has.
Oh! so its the country that gives, not the people who acheive something. I know many, many, many Indians (former Indians) who achieved success while in India because of their own studies and hard-work and when they came to US then its the country that starts giving them opportunities (the American dream).
I never fail to meet these morons ever so regularly.
Oh! so its the country that gives, not the people who acheive something. I know many, many, many Indians (former Indians) who achieved success while in India because of their own studies and hard-work and when they came to US then its the country that starts giving them opportunities (the American dream).
I never fail to meet these morons ever so regularly.
Fees charged by Indian universities were so low in 1960s- about rs 100 per year that a person owes about 200,000 to 300,000 dollars just for going to school in india.
India is surely one country gives a lot to undeseving and ungrateful millions, in and out of India!
India is surely one country gives a lot to undeseving and ungrateful millions, in and out of India!
...and look at the arrogance, instead of showing, or even saying gratitude to the country that taught them ABCs.
If you ask them now, then that was their own acheivement. When they earn big $$$ because of that education then, this is something that their adopted country is giving them. What hypocrites.
If you ask them now, then that was their own acheivement. When they earn big $$$ because of that education then, this is something that their adopted country is giving them. What hypocrites.
I never fail to meet these morons ever so regularly.
## you should start socializing more often rather than staying with your family.
## you should start socializing more often rather than staying with your family.
I never fail to meet these morons ever so regularly.
## you should start socializing more often rather than staying with your family.
Bad attempt of demeaning, just after one reply. Vinod Gupte, now, will you go to abuse, if I keep replying more to you.
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## you should start socializing more often rather than staying with your family.
Bad attempt of demeaning, just after one reply. Vinod Gupte, now, will you go to abuse, if I keep replying more to you.
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that is because you did not get my point. i was talking about this particular person and not those many many many many indians you know of, who achieved success in india and then came to this country. in any case, if they make that money sitting in this country, it is only appropriate that they give it back here. why don't you comment on adnan sami analogy of mine? would you clap if he donates his earnings to a madarasa in pakistan.
and yes, tell us about those many many many many indians who achieved success(define what is success) in india and then came here and this country started giving them the opportunities.
and yes, tell us about those many many many many indians who achieved success(define what is success) in india and then came here and this country started giving them the opportunities.
Why not? Amitabh donated 25 crores Rs. to the richest temple in India? He could have done a lot for the largest slum (Dharavi?) in Bombay.
===> I heard that the Sri Venketeswara University was built and maintained from the money donated to Tirupathi Temple.
Infact then it makes more sense that Amitabh could directly donate to the institution or hospital instead of routing it through Tirupati. So even if he donates the sum to a charitable cause ..say providing shelter for slums, providing them school,etc... you think Lord Balaji will miss his good deed & Lord Balaji favors only those who offer it in his Hundi ????
I think there is the tax relaxation & ..the scam of black money dumped into the hundi which is also a factor. There are lot of scam businessmen out there who have scammed by treating LOrd Balaji as their silent partner in their record books ...& they have gotten away with it. Thats the loophole in the system... where even God is not sparred from black marketeers.
I think there is the tax relaxation & ..the scam of black money dumped into the hundi which is also a factor. There are lot of scam businessmen out there who have scammed by treating LOrd Balaji as their silent partner in their record books ...& they have gotten away with it. Thats the loophole in the system... where even God is not sparred from black marketeers.
Amerasian,
You continue to amaze me with your ingnorance. What is wrong with Amithabh donating money to temple. The temple may be using the money for propagation of values he belives in. If you are referring to TTD, the money donated to this temple were well spent on Hospitals and Educational purposes along with religious purposes.
So next time you try to make a statement regarding India, find the facts.
You continue to amaze me with your ingnorance. What is wrong with Amithabh donating money to temple. The temple may be using the money for propagation of values he belives in. If you are referring to TTD, the money donated to this temple were well spent on Hospitals and Educational purposes along with religious purposes.
So next time you try to make a statement regarding India, find the facts.
How many have availed the services of TTD run hospitals??? are they supposed to be free ?? or do they charge some fees??? I heard the Saibaba, Putta... hospital doesnt charge any fees...is it really true???
& how easy is for any Indian (not just locals of TTD or Puttaparthi...) from any aprt of India to check in into the hopsital & avail of their services ??? do they do major surgeries,etc ???
Because I know of lot of hospitals who under the name of charitable trusts..still end up charging some enormous sums... & also show signs of religious bias, caste, community, region bias when it comes to offering special discounts for major illness treatments.
& how easy is for any Indian (not just locals of TTD or Puttaparthi...) from any aprt of India to check in into the hopsital & avail of their services ??? do they do major surgeries,etc ???
Because I know of lot of hospitals who under the name of charitable trusts..still end up charging some enormous sums... & also show signs of religious bias, caste, community, region bias when it comes to offering special discounts for major illness treatments.
RS,
TTD funds Sri Venkateshwara University which one of the three earlier universities in AP. The SV hospital is a Medical college atatched hospital f4ree to public and is run well. My uncle used to be a senior adminstrator at this facility some time back. TTD is one of the biggest contributors to AP budget( at least it used to be). You can find more details if you visit TTD web sites.
TTD funds Sri Venkateshwara University which one of the three earlier universities in AP. The SV hospital is a Medical college atatched hospital f4ree to public and is run well. My uncle used to be a senior adminstrator at this facility some time back. TTD is one of the biggest contributors to AP budget( at least it used to be). You can find more details if you visit TTD web sites.
He could have easily run one of the proposed 14 central Universities that are planned to be opened in 2nd tier cities in India.
But, he is practically an american and the only thing that gives him away is "kapoor" Obviously a Punjabi Christian he is perhaps ill at ease with India or Pakistan, and he thinks UB made him into an Olympic-style star, forgetting who taught him how to walk and run in the first place.
Oh well.... and the publicity craving, stupid Indian organizations lose no time in "honoring" such Pseudo Indians like Jindal and Kapoor.
BTW, Shymalan is more Indian than most and still an Indian at heart.
But, he is practically an american and the only thing that gives him away is "kapoor" Obviously a Punjabi Christian he is perhaps ill at ease with India or Pakistan, and he thinks UB made him into an Olympic-style star, forgetting who taught him how to walk and run in the first place.
Oh well.... and the publicity craving, stupid Indian organizations lose no time in "honoring" such Pseudo Indians like Jindal and Kapoor.
BTW, Shymalan is more Indian than most and still an Indian at heart.
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It is his money and he can do what ever he wants. He felt he owes it to this institute. I hope the institute remembers that and continue to support alien students as well as local students.
One question can be raised about all of who got educated in India, most of us were educated by Govt at no cost. That is service that mother India never aks us to pay back in any way. If mr. John Kapoor feels he owes it to UB, then logically he owes as much or more to Mother India that gave hm education in formative years and free college. It is not something a mother will ever demand, it is upto Mr. kapoor to do that. Well it applies to all of us. he may already be doing that. So I would not go around criticisizing him.
But if someone makes an argument that he owes more to UB than India, that argument is similar to Mother vs wife. Who is more important. My answer would be both should be given importance.
Many US universities do support alien students (a lot of Indian students). Cases in point: two of my nephews are in masters programs on scholarships at a SE university. Not only they are getting free education but also enough money for their food & apartment.
most of us have been graduate students and taught the undergraduates while getting paid a pittance. it works great for Indians and chinese because it is still a lot more than we coul;d command in India but it really works well for the university, which could only afford an average local brain at 3 times the salary.
Considering that best research is done by grad students and shared with many smart professors, the value of foreign students to USA economy and research was recognized shorly after 60s.
Since there are about 2 million -3millon Indians in USA, about a million make 100,000 or more and control assets worth about a million or more. If you are paid 100,000 then you must be producing about 300,000 for the employer of business.
thus assets controlled by Indian types in USA is 300,000 x 1000000 + ownership 1000000x1000000= something like E+12 or about a thousand billion. If Indians went to India with 1000 billion it would leave a black hole behind and inflicting a very serious loss on USA and very big gain for India. USA would not be destroyed but USA is now aware that Indians are useful and Jihadis are not.
Moral of the story is that wealth gained by an Indian, unless it is shipped to India would get spent finally by a city like Baltimore and contribute mostly to the well being of locals- so locals should rejoice that non- Christian brains, come from afar, put up with many travails and succeed in USA and raise the standard of living of locals.
This is unique to USA, everybody can suceed here, everybody knows it and wants to come to USA - very few great people like Bhaba, Sethana and a bunch of Parsis who can suceed anywhere returned to India and succeeded in India also and helped India and Indians.
I knwo that. I was one of those who benefited from US education. The key word is "continue to".