A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea

started by sara Boji 1 month ago
It is a sure bet that India will have a dalit prime minister within the next ten years. If Mayawathi gets the job, it will make dalits proud and make them feel confident that they are stakeholders in the Indian democracy.

I think it will also be good idea to make a Muslim as the prime minister. A couple of Muslim prime ministers in a century will not do any harm to India. In fact, it will weaken the Muslim extremists and the Kashmiri insurgency.

What do you say?

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  nutmeg posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
r u serious?

  desichatter posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
hmm...ya.sure. While we are at it, we should hoist the Pakistani flag as well. That would surely do us no harm too and would 'weaken' the Pakistani extremist agenda!!

  gyanputra posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
Democracy means  leader of majority of people, anything else is shit. 

  Rashmun posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
having a nationalist, liberal/secular muslim as the prime minister would be a good idea in my opinion. he would have the opportunity to be a good role model for young muslims. Pakistani propaganda would be mitigated severely if we had a muslim prime minister. but the man must be competent and capable.


  rawemotions posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
Muslims extremists will be weakened, if mainstream Indian Muslims are properly educated
about the virtues of eschewing the barbaric & offensive principles, of the practise of monotheism. A La Turkey.

They need to be educated properly in history & true secularism for that. There also needs to be strong laws
which give primacy to secularism, not just provide lip service.

The day they raise against the Muslim Extremists, those movements will just turn to dust.

Regarding Muslim PM. I outlined some of the qualities of a good PM. If a muslim individual has the same qualities, then he/she comes up due to their own merit. But one of the cornerstones of that person is that they realize the value polytheistic religions bring to the culture of India and understand to need and sustain it. Only then will they move away from
adopting the offensive monotheistic principles of Islam.  They also need to understand that polytheistic religions mean no harm to monotheistic religions, as their doctrine is pacifist.

If US Ambassador Blackwill from Kansas can understand that, so can these people.
  Rashmun posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
hinduism is not a polytheistic religion. i don't believe there is any polytheistic religion in india with the possible exception of some tribal religion(s).
  rawemotions posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
Please learn to confine yourself to things that you know about.
  Uppili posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
Now now.... you dont want Rashmun to stop posting here...by your demand or command - do you ?  If you insist then you may have no other option.

  Rashmun posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
only an ignoramus would claim that hinduism is a polytheistic religion. it is not. the different gods and goddesses in hinduism are different manifestations of the one God. Secondly, hinduism incorporates atheism/atheistic philosophies within it.
  rawemotions posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
If you start claiming that wikipedia and encyclopedia brittanica are all ignorant, then it is the case of pot calling the kettle black.

My point on the main post, still remains valid, and if you have anything to contribute there please say so. This is a diversionary tactic which I would not like to fall into.
From what you seem to write, you seem to have more or less similar views as what I have, on the main topic, so I do not see a need to issue any rejoinders.

This is an excerpt from Wikipedia on polytheism.

"The system prevalent in many sects of Hinduism is defined by the soft polytheistic Smartha philosophy and sect."
  Rashmun posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago

wikipedia is not the last word on any subject. i maintain that hinduism is not a polytheistic religion.

  MaxEntropy_Man posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
>>> try telling that to the millions of TN villagers who worship a thousand gods. perhaps you think their religion is not hinduism, but they may not agree with you.

>>> dravidian gods in modern hinduism: a study of the local and village deities.
  Rashmun posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago

even north indians worship a multitude of gods and goddesses. not many people take the trouble to read the original texts. The foremost representatives of orthodox hinduism like Adi Sankar, Madhava, Ramanuja, and others all agree to there being one god. when budhist and jain atheists (like the jain philosopher Gunaratna)  refute the hindu notion of God they are refuting a monotheistic definition of God. the upanisads explicitly state that there is only one god.

 

 

  MaxEntropy_Man posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
>>> a religion is nothing more than how it is practised by its adherents. i have little interest in poring over ancient religious texts, beyond the literary value of religious poetry and the puranas.  i suspect most hindus are like me.
  Uppili posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
>>> a religion is nothing more than how it is practised by its adherents.

Exactly my point. Hope you will remember your CLEARCUT statement that you made here. I will use this against Islamists in some other thread and let us see you agree with me when I criticize the Islamis on similar grounds.

Back to your discussion on Hinduism with the Chief Mullah of CH.
  -sandilya. posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
Dr. SWIV seems to have changed his views on Hinduism!  May be, when he tried to SWIV, a w slapped him so hard that his brain shook!  This also explains why he thinks people in V watch Hindi movies!  When the brain recovers from the trauma, I bet he'll start saying that Brahman is an Islamic concept.

  MaxEntropy_Man posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
>>> i am not sure what exactly you mean. have i ever denied that there are fundamentalist muslims who do nasty stuff in the name of religion? no. neither have i denied that there are fundamentalist hindus. there are folks who perpetuate violence in the name of religion across all religions. islam and muslims don't own the market on that.

  Rashmun posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
do u know the difference between dvaita and advaita, mullah uppili?

Pandit Rashmun
  Uppili posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
hey.. you are the one who CLAIMS to be a superior UP Brahmin (while really being a Mullah) - the all original Aryan race. I ain't the one claiming any such thing and hence I dont need to read about "Devita" or about "ads on devita."

Have you read your Koran today ? and do your Namaz (remember to face Makah realizing that you are in US).
  Rashmun posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
hey.. you are the one who CLAIMS to be a superior Tamil Gounder (while really being a Mullah) - the all original Aryan race. Hence it is strange that u also claim u dont need to read about genuine hindu philosophies like dvaita or advaita.

Have you read your Koran today ? and do your Namaz (remember to face Makah realizing that you are in US).

  Uppili posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
I don't know which one is smaller - your age, IQ, or..... ???
  Rashmun posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
I don't know which one is smaller - your age, IQ, or..... ???





  Rashmun posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
how are you doing today, mullah uppili?

Pandit Rashmun
  Uppili posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
Trust me...there is no doubt in anyone's mind that you are a Mullah despite your casteist claims of UP Pundit brahminism.

But, you yourself claim that I am a RSS wallah and a Hindu fundamentalist and at the same time you call me a Mullah...

See how inconsistent you are and never TRY TO make any sense - just saying whatever comes to your mind.

So what am I ? A Mullah or a findamentalist ?  Make up your mind and we can stick to your definition.
  Rashmun posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
Trust me...there is no doubt in anyone's mind that you are a Pakistani Mullah despite your casteist claims of Tamil Gounder

But, you yourself claim that I am a UP wallah and a brahmin fundamentalist and at the same time you call me a Mullah...

See how inconsistent you are and never TRY TO make any sense - just saying whatever comes to your mind.

So what am I ? A Mullah or a UP brahmin ?  Make up your mind and we can stick to your definition.
  Uppili posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
Hm...Still lacking originality and cant even write a few sentences of your own ?

Of course...it is well established and we understand your inadequacies.
  Rashmun posted Re:*A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago

Hm...Still lacking class and cant even write a few sentences of your own  without displaying your crassness?

Of course...it is well established and we understand your inadequacies.







  gowser posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
I do not read the texts either but it has always been clear to me that hinduism has one god all the other gods and goddesses as just aspects of the one big god.  Hence worshipping local village god was not different to worshipping shiva or vishnu or worshipping nothing.  

When it started it probably was truly polytheistic with many gods who were not linked to each other but somewhere down the line they have become many facets of one god rather than going down the jewish route that got rid of all the old gods and replaced it by a one god and one god only concept.




  Rashmun posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago

The sublime philosophy of the Hindus declares that God is one. God is the ultimate divine Reality. The ancient sages of Hinduism clearly stated, "The Reality is One, the wise ones refer to It variously (by various terms)." We have the significant announcement, "Ekam sat, vipraha bahudha vadanti." This truth they declared when they spiritually discovered It through their direct personal experiences granted by Divine Grace. Therefore, a real follower of true Hinduism knows and therefore firmly believes that the Divine Reality or God is one and non-dual. Even though Hinduism is mistakenly regarded by many as a religion having many gods namely, polytheism, yet truly speaking Hinduism is a monotheistic religion. It is a religion that long long ago, before any other religion had appeared in this world, had discovered that there is only ONE GOD. Later on our spiritual ancestors, the sages of God-experience and illumined vision, attained also the knowledge that the various religions of man are like so many different ways and paths that finally lead to this ONE God who is behind and beyond all religions including Hinduism. The Supreme Almighty Being (God) does not belong to any religion. Because, God existed even before this universe and mankind were created, even before any religions have come into existence. All religions belong to God. Because, He is the source as well as the final destination of all religions that exist.

http://www.dlshq.org/discourse/may2002.htm



  Uppili posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
>> My point on the main post, still remains valid, and if you have anything to contribute there please say so. This is a diversionary tactic which I would not like to fall into.


ROFL....

You are one smart person... You are here only for a short time and you have already figured out as well.... along with practically everyone in CH.
  gyanputra posted Re:A minority prime minister is a bad idea on 1 month ago

Muslim PM of an overwhelmingly Hindu country sounds very Mogul, almost blowjobber Mogul.

First qualification for the leader is that he/she represents India, a largely Hindu country.
Then comes the question of being a just, good, intelligent person... etc.  





  Rashmun posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago

u need to practice what u preach.





  Seva posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago

It's a nutty idea. Only that guy / gal who is fit, capable of doing the job and wants to do the job should be given this job by the electorate.


  Uppili posted Re:A muslim prime minister is not a bad idea on 1 month ago
A muslim politician is always be a Muslim first and he will bring back the "Glorious days" of Mogul rule to India.

(kalam was a Technocrat and was not a politician)


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